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    Hyper V 2012 on SD card (Dell R430) need how-to

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.

      It can and is all of the time. Even Microsoft recommends this (from several of their reps in SW) and several server vendors ship it this way. MS has documentation on it because it can be done.

      We argued this last year Scott. Microsoft still does not officially support this. It is not officially recommended by Microsoft. Microsoft GG employees can say whatever they want, but that does not make it official from, or even actually recommended by, Microsoft.

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      • todd-at-xByteT
        todd-at-xByte
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        I'm having trouble finding official Dell documentation, but it's my understanding that the SD card reader option is only supported for ESXi. I would strongly recommend for a production server that you stick with the traditional method of creating a small partition on the RAID volume.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @todd-at-xByte
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          @todd-at-xByte said:

          I'm having trouble finding official Dell documentation, but it's my understanding that the SD card reader option is only supported for ESXi. I would strongly recommend for a production server that you stick with the traditional method of creating a small partition on the RAID volume.

          I've seen that said a bit.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @LAH3385 said:

            I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.

            It can and is all of the time. Even Microsoft recommends this (from several of their reps in SW) and several server vendors ship it this way. MS has documentation on it because it can be done.

            We argued this last year Scott. Microsoft still does not officially support this. It is not officially recommended by Microsoft. Microsoft GG employees can say whatever they want, but that does not make it official from, or even actually recommended by, Microsoft.

            I stated exactly what you said in my post to make sure you could not say that I said that it was official but pointed out that it was Microsoft's official reps, not Microsoft officially - although we can argue that when Microsoft has official representation, that's official representation. But I did not claim that here in any form.

            But the GGs are Microsoft employees and are the chosen reps of the company speaking on behalf of the company. They are as official as any other resource. Unlike random bloggers or whatever, they are hired with the specific intent of being MS' representatives and speaking on behalf of the company.

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            • iroalI
              iroal
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              Same problem with the Dell R630...

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                LAH3385 @iroal
                last edited by

                @iroal said:

                Same problem with the Dell R630...

                After fighting it for a week, I gave up. Right now OS is on the same RAID. hoping Server NANO will have an answer for this.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper @LAH3385
                  last edited by

                  @LAH3385 Windows nano is not adding anything new to Windows, it is simply "less" than other versions.

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                  • iroalI
                    iroal @LAH3385
                    last edited by

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    @iroal said:

                    Same problem with the Dell R630...

                    After fighting it for a week, I gave up. Right now OS is on the same RAID. hoping Server NANO will have an answer for this.

                    I'll try this week, If I get it I'll let you know.

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                      LAH3385 @iroal
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                      @iroal said:

                      @LAH3385 said:

                      @iroal said:

                      Same problem with the Dell R630...

                      After fighting it for a week, I gave up. Right now OS is on the same RAID. hoping Server NANO will have an answer for this.

                      I'll try this week, If I get it I'll let you know.

                      For my R430 server, I disable SD Card slots as it does seem to be compatible. Windows on OS [EDIT: Windows on USB] also doesn't seem to be compatible. I created RAID10 on Raid Controller and partition it out in Windows. So I only have (1) RAID10 and (2) partitions.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Windows on OS?

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                          LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Windows on OS?

                          LOL! I meant Windows on USB. My head and hands sometime desync from each other.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Ah ha, USB makes way more sense.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              There is no current version of Windows Server (this include Hyper-V server) that will install on any removable media.

                              You have to have something prior to the OS load that tells the Windows install process that the media is a fixed disk.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                In theory that is what the special SD and USB slots on some Dell and HP servers are supposed to do - they present the device over SATA or something so that Windows things that it is a normal disk. Only certain ports normally do it.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  In theory that is what the special SD and USB slots on some Dell and HP servers are supposed to do - they present the device over SATA or something so that Windows things that it is a normal disk. Only certain ports normally do it.

                                  That is only on newer units.
                                  Devices I purchased in 2011 do not have that feature.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    In theory that is what the special SD and USB slots on some Dell and HP servers are supposed to do - they present the device over SATA or something so that Windows things that it is a normal disk. Only certain ports normally do it.

                                    That is only on newer units.
                                    Devices I purchased in 2011 do not have that feature.

                                    Dell or HP? I don't know the purchase year off hand but I know that our HP Proliant G7 had them and the G5 did not. G5 is much older than 2011. G7, not sure.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      In theory that is what the special SD and USB slots on some Dell and HP servers are supposed to do - they present the device over SATA or something so that Windows things that it is a normal disk. Only certain ports normally do it.

                                      That is only on newer units.
                                      Devices I purchased in 2011 do not have that feature.

                                      Dell or HP? I don't know the purchase year off hand but I know that our HP Proliant G7 had them and the G5 did not. G5 is much older than 2011. G7, not sure.

                                      Dell T410 and Dell T610 I think are the models. Purchased November 2011.

                                      I have a Dell 1U rack mount at another client purchased in umm late 2013 maybe? that would not do it either. That might be me missing a setting but I did try 3 times to get it going. After that I needed it up to recover from a failure.

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                                      • iroalI
                                        iroal
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                                        I made it !!

                                        Following this Tutorial

                                        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee731893(WS.10).aspx

                                        After this tutorial I get a blue screen but with the DVD and reparing the boot It works now.

                                        There is something strange anyway, the keyboard reaction is very slow.

                                        Regards

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @iroal
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                                          @iroal you should post a full how to with all steps and notes as its own thread, we will reference it often.

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                                            LAH3385 @iroal
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                                            @iroal said:

                                            I made it !!

                                            Following this Tutorial

                                            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee731893(WS.10).aspx

                                            After this tutorial I get a blue screen but with the DVD and reparing the boot It works now.

                                            There is something strange anyway, the keyboard reaction is very slow.

                                            Regards

                                            The slow respond probably due to drivers. I had slow network connection when remote in. After a Chipset driver update I am good to go.
                                            But since you installed in on a removable drive the cause might be different

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