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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      I am getting ready to set up my new server, which is going to run Hyper-V, with two VM instances (at least) of Windows Server on it.

      I have a RAID 5 (SSD, don't worry!) array that will be more than enough for these two VMs.

      How do people typically partition the drive on the Hyper-V server? Do you just make one big 😄 partition since there won't be any data on it, per se, other than the VMs?

      Also, what is the best practice these days for setting up a Windows Server for my VM instances? Used to be 20GB, though I know that's way out of the times today. Or since these will be VMs, do you make them dynamic, and not worry about the size?

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        I try and avoid partitioning, it's almost a universal law that you'll run out of space on one and use none of the other.

        Keep it big, let HV gobble up disk as it wants.

        Setup an alert (email or whatever) for disk space low.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          I am getting ready to set up my new server, which is going to run Hyper-V, with two VM instances (at least) of Windows Server on it.

          I have a RAID 5 (SSD, don't worry!) array that will be more than enough for these two VMs.

          How do people typically partition the drive on the Hyper-V server? Do you just make one big 😄 partition since there won't be any data on it, per se, other than the VMs?

          Also, what is the best practice these days for setting up a Windows Server for my VM instances? Used to be 20GB, though I know that's way out of the times today. Or since these will be VMs, do you make them dynamic, and not worry about the size?

          For the VM instances, here, we allocate 60GB, but thin provision the disks. I generally run my Hyper-V servers with one big 😄 drive.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            I generally break it up between 😄 and D:. Run 😄 at something like 50-60Gb. That way if you fill up 😧 with VMs they don't mess with the operating system.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                Put all your VMs in the same spot and use thin provisioning always.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  I generally break it up between 😄 and D:. Run 😄 at something like 50-60Gb. That way if you fill up 😧 with VMs they don't mess with the operating system.

                  I thought I read that somewhere.

                  Hopefully I'll be watching and be alerterd (and smart enough to know the max size of all VMs), but if a VHD got out of hand it could bring down ALL the other VMs.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    Are we honestly looking at a system with a 200GB RAID for this?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                      To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                        To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

                        Has anyone gotten Hyper-V to install on a SD card? Just wondering.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @coliver
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                          @coliver I thought about doing it on servers I put out this summer, but never tested it to try it out. I just created a small virtual disk off my raid controller for hyperv.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            @coliver said:

                            I generally break it up between 😄 and D:. Run 😄 at something like 50-60Gb. That way if you fill up 😧 with VMs they don't mess with the operating system.

                            I thought I read that somewhere.

                            Hopefully I'll be watching and be alerterd (and smart enough to know the max size of all VMs), but if a VHD got out of hand it could bring down ALL the other VMs.

                            No, if that is a possibility then you've made other mistakes. Thin provisioning alone creates no danger. You are thinking of over provisioning.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                              To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

                              Has anyone gotten Hyper-V to install on a SD card? Just wondering.

                              I know lots of people have done it. MS even has some vendors that ship that way.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                                To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

                                Has anyone gotten Hyper-V to install on a SD card? Just wondering.

                                That'd work ok I guess - I bet HV has a ton more writes than something like vmware though. If you're going to do it, I'd suggest something like the below, it will not have any issues. Bonus: it has a real controller in it so you'll get way faster speeds.

                                http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD3GE1841&cm_re=usb_ssd--20-233-767--Product

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Faster to do what, though?

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller bonus faster, not necessary faster

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Are we honestly looking at a system with a 200GB RAID for this?

                                      What do you mean?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        Originally I bought the server with a SATA 7200rpm array just for the Hyper-V server, but now that I have SSD in there (and more room than I'll ever really need) I figured I'd just do it all on the SSD array.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                                          To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

                                          Has anyone gotten Hyper-V to install on a SD card? Just wondering.

                                          I know lots of people have done it. MS even has some vendors that ship that way.

                                          That's good to know, last time I looked into it Microsoft was frowning on the practice.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            On Hyper-V, yes, just one big partition in this case. Two really, one for Hyper-V itself, then one for all of the VHDs. Do not make a partition for each file, one partition per file does not have any benefits.

                                            To expand on this, if you can install Hyper-V into a USB stick/SD Card, then that would be on it's own partition. Then all of the SSD space would go to the VM datastore. Otherwise I agree with Scott. Probably 40 GB to Hyper-V, and the rest to the datastore.

                                            Has anyone gotten Hyper-V to install on a SD card? Just wondering.

                                            I know lots of people have done it. MS even has some vendors that ship that way.

                                            That's good to know, last time I looked into it Microsoft was frowning on the practice.

                                            That's a debated subject. Microsoft has never frowned on it as a whole, ever. MS has said that officially it is an OEM supported practice only. But Microsoft's official reps (which although they are the hired spokespeople for Microsoft officially, Jared does not agree that they speak for them, which I get to some degree, but they are the official reps nonetheless) have agreed that it is both an industry and a Hyper-V best practice regardless of the "official" support statement on Technet. Technet says that it is not officially supported but does not frown on it. All they are doing is encouraging OEM installations.

                                            So you can look at it as officially MS recommend or unofficially MS recommended, you can look at it as officially unsupported or likely wink wink supported, but there is no question that MS does not frown on it.

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