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    8TB Daily backup on a Super Budget ... ha

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      The budget from the topic is $740.

      Does ioSafe have anything in that range which could do this?

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        The budget from the topic is $740.

        Does ioSafe have anything in that range which could do this?

        uuuuuh... no.

        The ioSafe 1515+ with 20TB is close to $4,000

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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          @gjacobse said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          The budget from the topic is $740.

          Does ioSafe have anything in that range which could do this?

          uuuuuh... no.

          The ioSafe 1515+ with 20TB is close to $4,000

          That's the wrong unit, though. The 214 is the right unit.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            Even the 214 with disk is $1399.99 . . .

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred @gjacobse
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              @gjacobse said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              The budget from the topic is $740.

              Does ioSafe have anything in that range which could do this?

              uuuuuh... no.

              The ioSafe 1515+ with 20TB is close to $4,000

              Try more like $6,000... just purchased one.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                At some point the answer is... the budget is wrong.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  The budget from the topic is $740.

                  Does ioSafe have anything in that range which could do this?

                  That's what he's paying today - he never said that was his budget..

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    At some point the answer is... the budget is wrong.

                    Not necessarily. You can do a meh job to stay in budget. That doesn't negate the value of the backup, just the level of actual protection.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Oh okay. Then $1500 might be a viable solution. Just have to talk ioSafe into different drives.

                      Or go without the fire proof box and go with a Synology 214 with 8TB drives.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                        @art_of_shred said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        At some point the answer is... the budget is wrong.

                        Not necessarily. You can do a meh job to stay in budget. That doesn't negate the value of the backup, just the level of actual protection.

                        No, at some point the budget would always be wrong. Maybe not necessarily in this case, but some level is always too little.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
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                          And he wants OFFSITE backup, no?

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
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                            He says "I would prefer to stay away from cloud backups as the companies internet connection is metered and uploading 8TB of data every day would cost us a fortune."

                            But that's not the case. If you sent a seed drive to an offsite, and then just replicated the changes, it wouldn't be that bad.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said:

                              He says "I would prefer to stay away from cloud backups as the companies internet connection is metered and uploading 8TB of data every day would cost us a fortune."

                              But that's not the case. If you sent a seed drive to an offsite, and then just replicated the changes, it wouldn't be that bad.

                              Well, you don't know their change rate. If their change rate is 100 GB a day, and they are rate limited to 10 GB a day, that's a no go.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender

                                Right but the quote of can't upload 8TB a day" probably isn't accurate.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @Dashrender

                                  Right but the quote of can't upload 8TB a day" probably isn't accurate.

                                  Not really, the client can't upload 8TB ever because their on a metered Internet service.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @Dashrender

                                    Right but the quote of can't upload 8TB a day" probably isn't accurate.

                                    You're right it not, the OP even says that they don't backup all 8 TB every day later in the thread - which of course completely changes the discussion.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      You're right it not, the OP even says that they don't backup all 8 TB every day later in the thread - which of course completely changes the discussion.

                                      I'd have to assume if they were creating that much data per day, they'd be larger than a company that would have a $740 backup budget. (Though we have not determined that to even be the case.)

                                      Would that be an accurate thing to assume, do you think/agree?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender

                                        Right but the quote of can't upload 8TB a day" probably isn't accurate.

                                        He contradicted himself. My guess is that it is a reasonable daily upload. Maybe a few hundred GB at most.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          You're right it not, the OP even says that they don't backup all 8 TB every day later in the thread - which of course completely changes the discussion.

                                          I'd have to assume if they were creating that much data per day, they'd be larger than a company that would have a $740 backup budget. (Though we have not determined that to even be the case.)

                                          Would that be an accurate thing to assume, do you think/agree?

                                          If you create 8TB of fresh data per day but only need the backup of that day's changes why would they worry about recovering it if they are "good" 24 hours later with it all being lost? All kinds of problems arise when we analyze how he is describing the problem.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            @Dashrender

                                            Right but the quote of can't upload 8TB a day" probably isn't accurate.

                                            Not really, the client can't upload 8TB ever because their on a metered Internet service.

                                            He didn't say that. And you don't need to. That's what a seed is for.

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