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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

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      • windsoW
        windso Vendor @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill What VM platform?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @windso
          last edited by

          @windso said:

          @BRRABill What VM platform?

          Hyper-V

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said:

            If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

            How would it normally work? Signal over the network. You can treat them as physical if you want.

            Or you can make the platform handle it and deal with it however the hypervisor is told to deal with it.

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            • windsoW
              windso Vendor @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              @windso said:

              @BRRABill What VM platform?

              Hyper-V

              Are you using SCVMM?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @windso
                last edited by

                @windso said:

                Are you using SCVMM?

                No

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                  Yeah, they are more with shipping, but that doesn't include the trade-in program.

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                  • windsoW
                    windso Vendor @BRRABill
                    last edited by windso

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @windso said:

                    Are you using SCVMM?

                    No

                    Well nuts. I HATE giving this answer, but it depends on what you want to accomplish. Page 3 of our HyperV manual covers the details of what is possible and how. Without SCVMM a lot of the advanced functionality is not possible.

                    http://pqsoftware.eaton.com/install/win32/ipp/IPP_How_to_Hyper_V_R1R2_env.pdf

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @windso
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                      @windso said:

                      Well nuts. I HATE giving this answer, but it depends on what you want to accomplish. Page 3 of our HyperV manual covers the details of what is possible and how. With SCVMM a lot of the advanced functionality is not possible.

                      http://pqsoftware.eaton.com/install/win32/ipp/IPP_How_to_Hyper_V_R1R2_env.pdf

                      That's a good enough explanation for me.

                      Thanks.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        BTW:

                        One other suggestion might be in addition to MSRPs on other things, to get some more concrete info on the trade-in program.

                        A link to your website, that says to contact your reseller, that in turn says they have to contact you is a bit kludgy.

                        If there were more specific details on your site, it might sway people who are on the edge.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

                          CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                          If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

                          The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                          under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @BRRABill said:

                            If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

                            How would it normally work? Signal over the network. You can treat them as physical if you want.

                            Or you can make the platform handle it and deal with it however the hypervisor is told to deal with it.

                            He also has to assume that the USB connection is good enough to send the needed signal to shut down the VMs.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                              Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

                              I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

                                CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                                If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

                                The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                                How long is it taking that stuff to shut down?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                  Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

                                  I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

                                  You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

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                                  • windsoW
                                    windso Vendor @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                    under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                                    The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

                                      That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

                                      I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller
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                                        For the record, super pleased with ours!

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @windso
                                          last edited by

                                          @windso said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                          under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                                          The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

                                          No prices on the 230 V models. That's what I have currently (the only power options available too).

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

                                            That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

                                            I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

                                            You'll definitely have no remote management of the UPS on the S series. that was stated via Jared's question earlier.

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