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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @mdecamp said:

      @IRJ Very comparable when it comes to price and functionality. We do offer a 3-year warranty that covers the entire UPS and the battery: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/3S.aspx?cx=3

      Typical desktop models:
      Eaton 3S: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/3S.aspx?cx=3
      Eaton 5S: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5S.aspx?cx=3

      The 5S has a nice LCD screen.

      We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

      What good timing!

      Only way it could have been better is if he got it BEFORE th power outage, lol.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

        CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

        If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

          Though shipping isn't free. 🙂

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

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            • windsoW
              windso Vendor @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill What VM platform?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @windso
                last edited by

                @windso said:

                @BRRABill What VM platform?

                Hyper-V

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

                  How would it normally work? Signal over the network. You can treat them as physical if you want.

                  Or you can make the platform handle it and deal with it however the hypervisor is told to deal with it.

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                  • windsoW
                    windso Vendor @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @windso said:

                    @BRRABill What VM platform?

                    Hyper-V

                    Are you using SCVMM?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @windso
                      last edited by

                      @windso said:

                      Are you using SCVMM?

                      No

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                        Yeah, they are more with shipping, but that doesn't include the trade-in program.

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                        • windsoW
                          windso Vendor @BRRABill
                          last edited by windso

                          @BRRABill said:

                          @windso said:

                          Are you using SCVMM?

                          No

                          Well nuts. I HATE giving this answer, but it depends on what you want to accomplish. Page 3 of our HyperV manual covers the details of what is possible and how. Without SCVMM a lot of the advanced functionality is not possible.

                          http://pqsoftware.eaton.com/install/win32/ipp/IPP_How_to_Hyper_V_R1R2_env.pdf

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @windso
                            last edited by

                            @windso said:

                            Well nuts. I HATE giving this answer, but it depends on what you want to accomplish. Page 3 of our HyperV manual covers the details of what is possible and how. With SCVMM a lot of the advanced functionality is not possible.

                            http://pqsoftware.eaton.com/install/win32/ipp/IPP_How_to_Hyper_V_R1R2_env.pdf

                            That's a good enough explanation for me.

                            Thanks.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              BTW:

                              One other suggestion might be in addition to MSRPs on other things, to get some more concrete info on the trade-in program.

                              A link to your website, that says to contact your reseller, that in turn says they have to contact you is a bit kludgy.

                              If there were more specific details on your site, it might sway people who are on the edge.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

                                CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                                If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

                                The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  If I have a physical machine running 4 VMs, how does shutdown of those individual VMs work?

                                  How would it normally work? Signal over the network. You can treat them as physical if you want.

                                  Or you can make the platform handle it and deal with it however the hypervisor is told to deal with it.

                                  He also has to assume that the USB connection is good enough to send the needed signal to shut down the VMs.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                    Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

                                    I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      We just had a 2.5 hour outage yesterday and I hadn't replaced my desktop UPS yet. I'm ordering this right now (Amazon has it for $200 for the 1500 model.. awesome price!)

                                      CDW (who we buy from) is even cheaper, and according to this AMA they'll give you credit for trade-in!

                                      If I decide from the next 2 hours of answers from Eaton that the 5S is going to be OK for my new server, I'll be placing an order as well today!

                                      The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                      under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                                      How long is it taking that stuff to shut down?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                        Well I am comparing it to the 5P1500 so the run time should be the same, I'd think.

                                        I'm really looking for the differences in features between the S and P lines.

                                        You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

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                                        • windsoW
                                          windso Vendor @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          The problem with the 5S1500 for a sever is simply how long the server takes to shutdown versus how long the power will stay running.

                                          under my current load (pretty close to full test yesterday) my two APC 3000XL units (server each have one power cord to each) and one APC 3000 (switches and phone system) all last about 40 mins.

                                          The Eaton 5PX would be the comparable model, specifically the 5PX3000RT. I'd stick to a 5PX1500RT if you need the runtime. The 5PX allows you to use external batteries and extend the runtime form the base unit.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            You mean besides huge prices? I'm guessing the P model has all of the advanced networking tech that the S home model does not.

                                            That was my original question. For 1 server, that has USB, would the S line be OK?

                                            I'm not sure what "advanced networking" features are. In my original thread the only thing that was really mentioned was the 2 distinct output groups.

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