Wi-Fi recommendations for a brand new warehouse / production facility?
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.
It's passive PoE. Cameras and other devices use it too.
http://www.rfelements.com/products/integration-platforms/power-over-ethernet/overview-2/ -
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
The Pro is great. I have the AC model at home which is POE+ which I have powered from a PoE+ switch.
Keep in mind in a normal factory you have lots of interference. Also don't place the WAPs as ceiling height in the facilities if they are say 20-40' high. Lower them on your support beams to around 8-10ft above ground. Otherwise your just wasting RF energy and more likely to get reflections off of the (likely) metal roof/deck.
Generally you want to put more and lower their RF output rather than put one and attempt cover a very large area.
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@JaredBusch said:
@art_of_shred You have to do a site survey with temp powered equipment spread around if you want to be sure.
Also, you said that this is a warehouse. This means that you have to account for the fact that the wireless will be more degraded once it is filled with product. That is assuming floor to ceiling stock is in the warehouse.
Agreed, what will fill the space?
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@JaredBusch Mostly open space, from what I understand. More production floor than product storage.
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So what does the range look like? Is it a half-sphere, if placed an a flat surface, or does it fan out in some particular pattern? I would assume the first, so if the range is 100', that's a 200' diameter zone that's 100' high at the central point. Given that 35' is the max height, you would lose very little spread by mounting it under the ceiling.
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Yeah I was wondering about the "don't mount at the high ceilings" comment too.
I'm no expert - why not mount there? Is ceiling reflection a problem with typical ceiling mounted APs?
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@art_of_shred said:
So what does the range look like? Is it a half-sphere, if placed an a flat surface, or does it fan out in some particular pattern? I would assume the first, so if the range is 100', that's a 200' diameter zone that's 100' high at the central point. Given that 35' is the max height, you would lose very little spread by mounting it under the ceiling.
Depends how you mount it. Ceiling mount and it should be almost exactly radial.
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@Dashrender said:
Yeah I was wondering about the "don't mount at the high ceilings" comment too.
I'm no expert - why not mount there? Is ceiling reflection a problem with typical ceiling mounted APs?
Metal ceiling in this scenario.
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@Dashrender said:
Yeah I was wondering about the "don't mount at the high ceilings" comment too.
I'm no expert - why not mount there? Is ceiling reflection a problem with typical ceiling mounted APs?
Only in Metal buildings, not a problem with drop ceilings/drywall. Not to mention metal buildings have to be bonded to ground (which in an production facility will become dirty). In general WAPs shouldn't be mounted to structural steel or mounted to/below the steel decking
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I don't get where that creates an issue? Is being attached to grounded metal some kind of a sink for signal? Any waves pointing at the ceiling aren't going to the local devices anyway; only the ones radiating below.
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@art_of_shred antennas don't transmit in a perfect circle radiating outwards, it's a fascinating thing to study! Lots of awesome old classified stuff from the cold war radar studies got us beam forming and other neat tricks.
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@MattSpeller Is that supposed to be helpful, or just a random comment? lol
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@art_of_shred I'll post a helpful one in a bit, sorry man. I meant to do more but I've got issues atm.
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I think something like the UBNT Aps would be good since you can centrally manage them. You really don't want to have to single manage 10 APs.
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I've heard some who really like Ruckus. No love for them here?
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@art_of_shred said:
I've heard some who really like Ruckus. No love for them here?
How do they price compare? UBNT Pro APs are $200/ea and the controller is either an $80 etherjack microdevice or software (Free) installed on a server.
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Ruckus are pretty decent. Wished I had one to know more.
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A lot of our companies clients (we aren't in the IT industry) have been having these built into the design of their buildings and I highly recommend the use of something similar. Cisco has a kit for mounting to 2 Gang Boxes.
