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    • PSX_DefectorP
      PSX_Defector @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @gjacobse said:

      Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.

      Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.

      Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.

      Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.

      Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.

      That would have been my recommendation as well.

      Exchange is designed around a set of users. Sharepoint is designed to share, hence it's name. And you can integrate them together

      http://blogs.technet.com/b/ptsblog/archive/2011/05/31/sharepoint-and-exchange-calendar-together.aspx

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      • coliverC
        coliver @PSX_Defector
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        @PSX_Defector said:

        @coliver said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @gjacobse said:

        Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.

        Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.

        Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.

        Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.

        Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.

        That would have been my recommendation as well.

        Exchange is designed around a set of users. Sharepoint is designed to share, hence it's name. And you can integrate them together

        http://blogs.technet.com/b/ptsblog/archive/2011/05/31/sharepoint-and-exchange-calendar-together.aspx

        Yep, they can also be shared as CALDav calendars which you can add to the stock Android Calendar app IIRC.

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          hubtechagain
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          @Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @hubtechagain
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            @hubtechagain said:

            @Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me

            I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @hubtechagain said:

              @Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me

              I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?

              See, I do not care about that. If I am buying through channel or not, they can still list a MSRP.

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @hubtechagain said:

                @Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me

                I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?

                See, I do not care about that. If I am buying through channel or not, they can still list a MSRP.

                Completely agree. If I'm price-shopping, I don't want to waste their time or mine chasing down a price (or getting stalked by sales for a product I am just roughly looking at).

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                  Baustin213 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller It's not channel-only. Fair critique about not listing pricing, though. Something that we'll look into, I'm sure.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Baustin213
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                    @Baustin213 said:

                    @scottalanmiller It's not channel-only. Fair critique about not listing pricing, though. Something that we'll look into, I'm sure.

                    As others here have stated in this thread and as I have stated in other threads, I will not even consider your product without some kind of simple to see pricing on your website.

                    Put a big * by it and note MSRP, call for quote, etc. But put a damned price out there.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.

                      You or someone else mentioned this within the past week.

                      Nope I haven't tried it. I don't have a SP server, either inhouse or online yet. I'm guessing that for my inhouse solution I'd have to publish SharePoint to the internet for this to work with mobile devices?

                      Yeah a third party app would be just that, a third party app. But that's no big deal, other than just telling them.. hey calendar is now useless... here is your new calendar app.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch here Here! You can always list MSRP. If the resellers want to sell for less, great, but at least I have a starting point.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @coliver said:

                          Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.

                          You or someone else mentioned this within the past week.

                          Nope I haven't tried it. I don't have a SP server, either inhouse or online yet. I'm guessing that for my inhouse solution I'd have to publish SharePoint to the internet for this to work with mobile devices?

                          Yeah a third party app would be just that, a third party app. But that's no big deal, other than just telling them.. hey calendar is now useless... here is your new calendar app.

                          Right but if you are moving to O365 in the future anyway it may be worth looking at an application that is already included in it.

                          I think I mentioned it earlier sorry for reiterating it.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Baustin213
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                            @Baustin213 said:

                            @Dashrender I may have a somewhat self-serving answer here. Not sure it's exactly what you're looking for, but have you tried R1Soft?

                            I'm assuming you're a contact for R1 Soft? Welcome to ML

                            Get this man a vendor tag (assuming he is one).

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
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                              @coliver said:

                              Right but if you are moving to O365 in the future anyway it may be worth looking at an application that is already included in it.

                              I think I mentioned it earlier sorry for reiterating it.

                              No no, thanks for mentioning again, I want to make sure I don't forget.
                              But if I'm really looking to move to O365, and OWA solves my issue, Adding SP calendars is just one more thing to be broken - unless they sync WAY better than ActiveSync does on iOS? (I have calendar corruption about every 3-4 months on at least one phone because of sync issues).

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                              • Minion QueenM
                                Minion Queen Banned
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                                The calendars are much better than the active sync on your phone. I just use OWA on my phone now. So much easier.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  The calendars are much better than the active sync on your phone. I just use OWA on my phone now. So much easier.

                                  huh, I wonder how calendars in OWA on Android/iOS would work? There is the problem where many ORs don't have good cell reception, so that's probably not going to be a good solution anyway.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @Minion-Queen said:

                                    The calendars are much better than the active sync on your phone. I just use OWA on my phone now. So much easier.

                                    huh, I wonder how calendars in OWA on Android/iOS would work? There is the problem where many ORs don't have good cell reception, so that's probably not going to be a good solution anyway.

                                    You don't have wireless in the buildings?

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