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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      So ioSafe is just a physical upgrade to the matching Synology model.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        (not UNDER water proof.)

        Not according to that video! 🙂

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

          Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

            Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

            That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

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              Brett at ioSafe Vendor @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @BRRABill said:

              Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

              They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

              Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Brett at ioSafe
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                @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @BRRABill said:

                Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                  Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

                  That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

                  And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                    Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

                    That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

                    And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)

                    RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

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                      Brett at ioSafe Vendor @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                      They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                      Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                      Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

                      That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Brett at ioSafe
                        last edited by

                        @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @BRRABill said:

                        Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                        They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                        Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                        Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

                        That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.

                        That I knew, that it could take a fire hose. It was the full submersion that I was unaware of.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

                          You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link. 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

                            You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link. 🙂

                            It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.

                              You have a writeup on normal RAID 10 math? 😉

                              I always thought RAID 5 was king. But I know it's 10 now. (Except with SSD which is OK.) I think I saw an article of yours. But it might have all just been forum chatter.

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                              • RomoR
                                Romo
                                last edited by Romo

                                @BRRABill https://www.google.com.mx/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=smbitjournal.com:+raid

                                Posts from @scottalanmiller about raid

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  Awesome, thanks.

                                  That's a Google thing I always forget to do.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    Awesome, thanks.

                                    That's a Google thing I always forget to do.

                                    I have a full collection in one place curated to make things easy:
                                    http://mangolassi.it/topic/121/raid-link-blast

                                    If you Google "RAID Link Blast" ML is the top hit.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
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                                      Well I have my reading for the weekend.

                                      Wait. NO NO NO. Fun, have fun. No reading.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        But it is FUN reading!

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          Couple more questions on this NAS.

                                          1. I know drive capacity and performance capacity was mentioned. Obviously space drives drive capacity (pun intended) but what drives performance? The number of users? The types of files? Both?

                                          2. Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.

                                          3. The 214 and 215+ were both mentioned. Any reason to go with the 215+ over the 214? I have such a hard time making these kinds of decisions!

                                          4. How do you access files on this remotely? It looks like it has a VPN add-on?

                                          5. Why are there so many media-type add-ons for this thing? Do people typically do that in a business setting?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Woot, this thread is back to life.

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