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    • RomoR
      Romo @MattSpeller
      last edited by

      @MattSpeller said:

      @BRRABill said:

      Is ioSafe and Synology the same thing?\

      Yeah but ioSafe has better BBQ's

      lol

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/08/you-can-fry-an-egg-on-the-iosafe-solo/

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          Could go for a good BBQ. Our "driving kids around" schedule is filled with hoagies, granola bars, and nothingness.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill sorry lol - they are the same, but ioSafe puts their's into a fireproof wrapper, then does PR stunts like BBQ'ing them.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  So ioSafe is just a physical upgrade to the matching Synology model.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    (not UNDER water proof.)

                    Not according to that video! 🙂

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                      Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                        Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

                        That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

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                          Brett at ioSafe Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @BRRABill said:

                          Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                          They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                          Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Brett at ioSafe
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                            @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @BRRABill said:

                            Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                            They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                            Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                            Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @BRRABill said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                              Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

                              That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

                              And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.

                                Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?

                                That's the only option, so yes. 🙂

                                And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)

                                RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

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                                  Brett at ioSafe Vendor @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                                  They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                                  Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                                  Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

                                  That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Brett at ioSafe
                                    last edited by

                                    @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Brett-at-ioSafe said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.

                                    They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)

                                    Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.

                                    Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?

                                    That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.

                                    That I knew, that it could take a fire hose. It was the full submersion that I was unaware of.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

                                      You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link. 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.

                                        You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link. 🙂

                                        It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.

                                          You have a writeup on normal RAID 10 math? 😉

                                          I always thought RAID 5 was king. But I know it's 10 now. (Except with SSD which is OK.) I think I saw an article of yours. But it might have all just been forum chatter.

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                                          • RomoR
                                            Romo
                                            last edited by Romo

                                            @BRRABill https://www.google.com.mx/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=smbitjournal.com:+raid

                                            Posts from @scottalanmiller about raid

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