10 PC Office Data Storage Recommendations
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.
They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)
Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.
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@Brett-at-ioSafe said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.
They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)
Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.
Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.
Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?
That's the only option, so yes.
And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
That's really for those that need more than 6TB of usable only. If you need 6TB or less, the ioSafe 214 / Synology 215+ are where it is at.
Then just go with Raid 1, since it is 2 bay?
That's the only option, so yes.
And that is .... OK? (I know RAID 10 is the king here.)
RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Brett-at-ioSafe said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.
They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)
Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.
Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?
That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.
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@Brett-at-ioSafe said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Brett-at-ioSafe said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Is there actually a difference? I haven't looked yet. Too much chatter on this forum to use any other browser windows.
They are the same. Synology makes the guts of both. Same hardware and same software. ioSafe then fireproofs the chassis and adds some extra hardware to make it fire and water proof (not UNDER water proof.)
Actually. they are UNDERwaterproof and can go up - or should that be "down'? - to 10’ under for 3 days - fresh or salt water.
Was that always the case or is that an upgrade?
That's always been the case. And the waterproofing is retained after a fire event so the unit will not be hosed - if you'll pardon the pun - when the fire department start pouring on water.
That I knew, that it could take a fire hose. It was the full submersion that I was unaware of.
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@scottalanmiller said:
RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.
You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
RAID 1 is the safest possible RAID level. RAID 10 is many RAID 1 mirrors in a single RAID 0 stripe. So the best RAID 10 is one with the smallest possible RAID 0 stripe. A RAID 1 is a RAID 10 where the RAID 0 stripe has only one member.
You have a writeup on here on that? I know (I am sure I Know) you do, just looking for a link.
It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's just an extension of normal RAID 10 math.
You have a writeup on normal RAID 10 math?
I always thought RAID 5 was king. But I know it's 10 now. (Except with SSD which is OK.) I think I saw an article of yours. But it might have all just been forum chatter.
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Awesome, thanks.
That's a Google thing I always forget to do.
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@BRRABill said:
Awesome, thanks.
That's a Google thing I always forget to do.
I have a full collection in one place curated to make things easy:
http://mangolassi.it/topic/121/raid-link-blastIf you Google "RAID Link Blast" ML is the top hit.
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Well I have my reading for the weekend.
Wait. NO NO NO. Fun, have fun. No reading.
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But it is FUN reading!
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Couple more questions on this NAS.
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I know drive capacity and performance capacity was mentioned. Obviously space drives drive capacity (pun intended) but what drives performance? The number of users? The types of files? Both?
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Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.
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The 214 and 215+ were both mentioned. Any reason to go with the 215+ over the 214? I have such a hard time making these kinds of decisions!
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How do you access files on this remotely? It looks like it has a VPN add-on?
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Why are there so many media-type add-ons for this thing? Do people typically do that in a business setting?
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Woot, this thread is back to life.
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I think I'm missing something. I saw how many users. But How much data do you have? What are your backup requirements? This seems like O365 and ODfB could do wonders for your company. Enterprise Email and cloud based storage in one package.
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@BRRABill said:
Couple more questions on this NAS.
- I know drive capacity and performance capacity was mentioned. Obviously space drives drive capacity (pun intended) but what drives performance? The number of users? The types of files? Both?
We use WD reds in RAID10 (which the 2 bay NAS obviously can not do), it'll max out gig lan for a large file transfer providing not many other people are poking at it simultaneously. We do more large file moving than most office environments so our experience is probably different than yours will be. We like em for what that's worth.
- Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.
We do not
- The 214 and 215+ were both mentioned. Any reason to go with the 215+ over the 214? I have such a hard time making these kinds of decisions!
Um, make sure you look at the feature list to ensure it has cloudsync. That's pretty much the only app on them I'd really care about.
- How do you access files on this remotely? It looks like it has a VPN add-on?
We use a VPN through another system, no experience with theirs.
- Why are there so many media-type add-ons for this thing? Do people typically do that in a business setting?
Because they can? That's my best guess. Why make 2 products the same but differ in software for Business and Home use cases I suppose.
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@BRRABill said:
- I know drive capacity and performance capacity was mentioned. Obviously space drives drive capacity (pun intended) but what drives performance? The number of users? The types of files? Both?
It's driven by usage. How is stuff being accessed. Number of users and file types would be misleading. It is more complex than that. You'd need to measure your usage and see what is needed.
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@BRRABill said:
- Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.
No. That's pretty worthless in a small, non-technical environment. How and where would they use this encryption that it would be both useful and protect anything? What do you want to encrypt against?
