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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      Once your MDADM RAID10 XenServer is up and running, I'd follow this guide (still a work in progress) to building an ISO and File server.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        NAS - easy to use & manage.

        Synology DS412+ (cloudsync user's folders is niiiiiice)

        Stuff it with the biggest drives you can afford, RAID10, done.

        Setup a backup to cloud if you have the bandwidth, IOsafe or something else if you dont.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          So far sounds like no one thinks Server 2012/2016 is an option here?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            Licensing cost is just the biggest issue.

            If you can have what you need, while saving a good chunk of money on licensing, why wouldn't you?

            If you really want Microsoft, set it up as a VM on your preferred Hypervisor.

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            • J
              Jason Banned
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              Windows File servers provide some nice feature with FSRM as well as deduplication compared to a NAS. However with your small scale you may not need those features.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                At that size I would definitely be looking at a NAS like ioSafe, Synology and ReadyNAS. Something in the two to four bay range with RAID 1 (2 bay) or RAID 10 (4 bay.) Unless you need server features, which is unlikely at this size, I would not go that route.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Unless you need server features

                  What would you qualify as a "server feature"?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    So far sounds like no one thinks Server 2012/2016 is an option here?

                    Cost would be outrageous for a company of this size. What would even bring them to the table, realistically? Spending $700 on licensing for what would amount to zero features is more money on software alone than the entire solution should cost.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Unless you need server features

                      What would you qualify as a "server feature"?

                      Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                        Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                        The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                          What would you describe as "doing users?"

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Synology (including ioSafe) and ReadyNAS both have AD Integration (useless in a group this small since you are below the AD threshold) and NTFS ACLs. Those are the "user" features.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Adding @Brett-at-ioSafe you can guess which vendor he is with.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                                Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                                The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                                It will do Samba with users and permissions through its web gui.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  It will do Samba with users and permissions through its web gui.

                                  Meaning SMB. Samba is the name of the underlying code but not relevant to the users of a NAS - that's just under the hood. It is an SMB server like Windows. It does the same SMB features that Windows would do.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                                    Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                                    The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                                    The synology NAS's are actually rather impressive. I'm much more fond of having a server, but with these beasties being so good it's hard to justify all the extra expense and maintenance of a server.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      What would you describe as "doing users?"

                                      Yeah after I typed that I thought it needed clarification.

                                      Having never installed one of these things, how does it integrate with Windows, I guess is the question.

                                      They'd have a Windows desktop logon, and then attach to a share, using the user account on the NAS?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        The synology NAS's are actually rather impressive. I'm much more fond of having a server, but with these beasties being so good it's hard to justify all the extra expense and maintenance of a server.

                                        Looking at the website, definitely looks interesting.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Now pure hosted is a very valid approach too. It depends on the scenario, robustness of features desired, etc. Of course we expect any email, intranet and other features to be hosted. It is only the storage that we are discussing here.

                                          Products like Google Apps include Google Drive. MS Office 365 includes One Drive for Business and SharePoint for storage. And you can build your own like ownCloud for cheap on services like Vultr. Plus there are third party products like ownCloud's own hosted server, DropBox, etc.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            Having never installed one of these things, how does it integrate with Windows, I guess is the question.

                                            "Integrate with Windows" is a hard phrase to answer. They do SMB Share Security as designated by the SMB protocol specs and NTFS ACLs.

                                            Answer this question: "How would a Windows server integrate with Windows." If you can answer that, I can help explain where a Synology would diverge from that, if at all. But since to me they are identical, I'm not sure how to describe one or the other.

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