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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
      last edited by IT-ADMIN

      yeah you are right Dear Scott, that is their philosophy
      but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
      because i have one XenSever Host (2 VM guest in it) and till now i didn't put a backup solution for it !

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?

        No, because their free product and their XenServer product are completely different products. They don't have a free XenServer product yet after having bought the company that makes that software.

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        • DanpD
          Danp
          last edited by

          Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Danp
            last edited by

            @Danp said:

            Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

            Even KVM?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Danp said:

              Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

              Even KVM?

              Nope

              Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

              Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Danp said:

                Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                Even KVM?

                Nope

                Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                So not all major. LOL

                Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Danp said:

                  Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                  Even KVM?

                  Nope

                  Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                  Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                  So not all major. LOL

                  Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                  Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Danp said:

                    Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                    Even KVM?

                    Nope

                    Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                    Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                    So not all major. LOL

                    Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                    Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                    http://xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source.html

                    It looks like it is still managed by Citrix?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Danp said:

                      Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                      Even KVM?

                      Nope

                      Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                      Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                      So not all major. LOL

                      Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                      Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                      XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by

                        Here is the site for the Linux Foundation managed version. http://xenproject.org/

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

                              and I'm back to being confused.

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

                              Does this not mean that XenServer is Citrix, but then Scott says no one uses anything Citrix makes.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                So you can download a packaged solution for free of charge from Citrix, this includes XenServer 6.5 and XenCenter. The closed source management interface for XenCenter.

                                You can download an unpacked version from the Linux Foundation which doesn't include XenCenter.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Help me understand why you would download a Citrix own thing from the Linux Foundation instead of Citrix? XenServer, according to Scott belongs to Citrix.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    I feel like I'm missing some super simple here, but just can't grasp it.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by DustinB3403

                                      Which if you're downloading from xenproject.org you're downloading Xen. Not XenServer.

                                      Its a branded solution for the Xen project.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        OK the first line of the link @coliver posted above reads

                                        XenServer is an open source project and community managed by Citrix

                                        What does managed by Citrix mean? Does that mean they own it, but have GPL'ed it or Open Sourced it (different license than GPL) so anyone can use it anyway they want, but Citrix still owns it?

                                        Damn that's a mind bender.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          OK So lets go back to the basics.

                                          Citrix developed XenServer originally, but made it open source and donated the project to the Linux Foundation, they called it "Xen Project". So now there are 2 projects, Xen (Linux Foundation) and XenServer (Citrix Backed Version). Both offer an almost identical platform, except the management interface. Which is owned and privately developed by Citrix.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            anyone know a free backup solution for XenServer
                                            something like veeam lol

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