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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      I am also considering something like this.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/351560514793?euid=0f44687ed201474e871907186ed0927d&cp=1&exe=13453&ext=34391&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext

      EZ-Bridge EZBR-0519 5GHz 801.11a Outdoor Wireless Point to Point System

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Why are you setting up a Point to Point between these two houses anyways? Is this personal or business?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Personal.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse
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            Point to Point or Wireless Bridge?

            I created a Wireless bridge to my neighbor's house using a pair of old Linksys Access Points. It worked for a good long while.

            I can't say I know the distance, but my side was in the garage (1 wall) and their side was in the kitchen ( maybe 4 walls).

            It wasn't the 'fastest' link,.. but it was more that functional.

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              Jason Banned
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              Depending on the Glass, it can be very reflective of RF.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                @gjacobse I'll be using the device for a wireless bridge.

                I could try home AP to home AP, but from what I recall hearing, internet access barely works in the yard or the staring point, so that probably won't work.

                There is line of site between the houses, I just need to make sure there aren't any trees I forgot about.

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                  Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  There is line of site between the houses, I just need to make sure there aren't any trees I forgot about.

                  If you can wait til summer to do the install then you'll know 😉

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.

                    Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I used Netgear equipment to do a wireless bridge between two of the biggest hospitals in DC around 2001. Worked great.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        There is line of site between the houses, I just need to make sure there aren't any trees I forgot about.

                        If you can wait til summer to do the install then you'll know 😉

                        LOL, gee, thanks. I'm guessing if there is a tree with branches when I look out the window, then I'd know too. 😉

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                          Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.

                          Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.

                          Unless it has some of that Newer UV coating stuff "Low E" on it, it can reflect the RF a bit.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Jason
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                            @Jason said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.

                            Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.

                            Unless it has some of that Newer UV coating stuff "Low E" on it, it can reflect the RF a bit.

                            True, good point.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I used Netgear equipment to do a wireless bridge between two of the biggest hospitals in DC around 2001. Worked great.

                              Were you close to windows?

                              Glass isn't always RF transparent. I did some reading after posting this, and sometimes it can cause some pretty big issues. Though that reading was revolving around point to point connection devices.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.

                                Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.

                                We've got quite a few leaded glass windows in our house. They don't seem to allow signal to go through them very well. Just from a little testing I've done.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.

                                    If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                      @coliver said:

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.

                                      If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.

                                      CAT 7 is just more fragile, not for burying. Each higher number has a different wind characteristic, not different physical abilities like plenum.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        The nice thing about just burying a line for a personal project like this is that it doesn't have to be very deep. 1-6 inches. A hand held spade would easily do the job.

                                        It might take just as long to bury as it would to get a point to point up and running.

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                                          Jason Banned @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.

                                          If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.

                                          Yep they make it. Not really a good idea between two buildings with different power services though as your ground potentials may be off (shock hazzard) and it's another path for surges and lightening. Multi-Mode Fiber is pretty cheap though.

                                          You'd also need an easement if it crosses a property line.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Jason
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                                            @Jason said:

                                            If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.

                                            Yep they make it. Not really a good idea between two buildings with different power services though as your ground potentials may be off (shock hazzard) and it's another path for surges and lightening. Multi-Mode Fiber is pretty cheap though.

                                            You'd also need an easement if it crosses a property line.

                                            I'm definitely concerned about the ground potential differences. I'd guess they are on the same electrical grid since the house are back to back but that is no guarantee.

                                            Fiber - yeah, that would be entirely beyond the dollar cost here - I'd not only need fiber to run underground, but a switch on each side to terminate it, and I've never terminated fiber before so I don't have the tools, etc. The costs would spin out of control and desired range.

                                            an easement - sure if I cared about being legal, but I don't, not for this project. Clearly I'd be crossing property lines, I'm going from one house to another. Its rare that two house would ever been on the same property.

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