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    Healthcare Sharing Networks - Have You Used One?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen said:

      The machine was from like 1975 or something so yeah 😛

      LOL I was actually kidding, but at the same time not surprised at all.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        Art had to fix it like 10 times when he was there.... It was so old. Yeah Africa doesn't exactly get nice new stuff.

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        • NetworkNerdWifeyN
          NetworkNerdWifey @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender
          I'm curious to see how it turns out the first time you have a need - will the checks start pouring in?
          From my understanding of the program, when your need is submitted it is then published the following month to a set amount of people who are assigned to your need. They are then to send their check to you, the recipient with the need.

          Also not thrilled with a set of strangers having my access (so they can send the funds).
          Maybe? But then again I've been pretty successful in the past at finding out anyone's address I needed by googling enough. I did hunt down Nick's birth father through the internet, after all.

          Also, how does the central body know who did or didn't send money to those in need?
          As the recipient of the need, you are sent a checklist of the households assigned to your need. As you receive those checks, you are to mark your list and report to the office any who do not send their funds in the allotted amount of time. So there is a system of checks and balances.

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          • NetworkNerdWifeyN
            NetworkNerdWifey
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            Also I think someone asked about the tax thing - yes, we are covered as far as not having to pay the penalty tax. HCSN are allowed under ACA. We have a tax form that we will submit at tax time.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller
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              This whole thread top to bottom blows my mind

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              • coliverC
                coliver @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller said:

                This whole thread top to bottom blows my mind

                Oh to be a Canadian looking in?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  This whole thread top to bottom blows my mind

                  There is a reason that Americans travel all over the world for "healthcare tourism."

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @coliver
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                    @coliver amongst other things! Trusting a closed system supposedly built on faith that does not publish it's financials, excluding anyone not of faith (or the wrong faith), paying extortionate amounts of money to get health care....

                    Edit: our system isn't awesome, no doubt. Here's an eye opener though - go punch in your salary here.

                    http://www.ees-financial.com/calculators/TakeHomePayCalculator.htm

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned
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                      It is true that it's cheaper to travel for healthcare. I have to have some VERY major surgery in the next couple years. I will be going to Spain most likely. The cost of travel a 3 week stay at a health care resort and the surgery etc. is only about $10k. That is a in room nurse private room for me an husband and all travel costs food etc.

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                      • Reid CooperR
                        Reid Cooper
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                        spain hip replacement

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @NetworkNerdWifey
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                          @NetworkNerdWifey said:

                          Also I think someone asked about the tax thing - yes, we are covered as far as not having to pay the penalty tax. HCSN are allowed under ACA. We have a tax form that we will submit at tax time.

                          Not worried about the penalty tax... Concerned about the you getting money and not paying taxes on it. Here in Nebraska (and maybe this is federal) you have to report all sources of income. Technically this would be a source of income I would think - but perhaps it's not -it's just so darned weird...

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said:

                            http://www.ees-financial.com/calculators/TakeHomePayCalculator.htm

                            I love how this has a starting salary of $200K. Is that a normal pay in Canada?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Can an American just fly to these other countries and get healthcare and pay cash? How does that effect those who are waiting for those same surgeries in the country?

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                              • Minion QueenM
                                Minion Queen Banned
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                                Yes....

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  Yes....

                                  and the second part of my question? I don't know about Spain, but I have heard that in Germany if you only get the government provided healthcare, and don't care additional coverage, there are long waits for surgical procedures.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    http://www.ees-financial.com/calculators/TakeHomePayCalculator.htm

                                    Those tax rates (not counting deductions) seem very similar to US tax rates.

                                    Here is the Federal only tax portion. At $100K = 28% At $200K = 33%
                                    For Nebraska it's an additional 6.84% over $27K (individual)
                                    For New York it's an additional 8+% depending on county

                                    So someone in Nebraska pays roughly 34.84%
                                    and in NY pays roughly 36.84%

                                    These numbers seem pretty darned close to Canada's numbers.

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen Banned @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Minion-Queen said:

                                      Yes....

                                      and the second part of my question? I don't know about Spain, but I have heard that in Germany if you only get the government provided healthcare, and don't care additional coverage, there are long waits for surgical procedures.

                                      If you set these things up ahead of time. Also Germany wouldn't be a place you would go either for a health care destination.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        and the second part of my question? I don't know about Spain, but I have heard that in Germany if you only get the government provided healthcare, and don't care additional coverage, there are long waits for surgical procedures.

                                        That's total BS. That's what Americans repeat. Germany do NOT wait for healthcare services. Anyone telling you about waits anywhere outside of the US is flat out lying. It's because just one of those things that they've repeated enough that they think that they can get away with claiming it. It's utterly ridiculous. It's totally unfounded.

                                        Every time someone says that, it's always based on the hope that no one will know how to talk to someone in those countries to confirm it. They say it about Canada and the UK, places known for poor healthcase, and they certainly don't have those problems. Places like central Europe (Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland) that lead the world in healthcare do NOT have those kinds of problems. Their healthcare is cheap and fantastic.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          If you set these things up ahead of time. Also Germany wouldn't be a place you would go either for a health care destination.

                                          Not if you can get to France, Italy or Spain. But if you are an American, Germany is so much better that it looks like Spain by comparison to what you are used to.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @NetworkNerdWifey said:

                                            Also I think someone asked about the tax thing - yes, we are covered as far as not having to pay the penalty tax. HCSN are allowed under ACA. We have a tax form that we will submit at tax time.

                                            Not worried about the penalty tax... Concerned about the you getting money and not paying taxes on it. Here in Nebraska (and maybe this is federal) you have to report all sources of income. Technically this would be a source of income I would think - but perhaps it's not -it's just so darned weird...

                                            You don't consider NORMAL insurance to be a form of income, right?

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