@gjacobse The biggest difference between the two in actual usage for myself is that flatpack is available across all common distributions that I use. So all the distributions based on Debian, Ubuntu and RedHat would all work with flatpack.

I still prefer to use the native tool set when available, but flatpack does come in handy when it has a newer version or the native packages have issues.

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We have SEVEN cats now!

We called it enough at 3!

The only thing I've had problems with when using double NAT is some phone systems get very very cranky.

Other than that, just the normal downsides of not controlling your own external access.

goauthentik.io

I've seen this mentioned in a number of places recently, and it sounds like a good option to enable SSO. The open source/free version has useful features.

I just got it installed tonight. All I can say about it so far is that it is an easy install on Ubuntu Server using Docker. I'd imagine the Kubernetes version is also an easy install.

Just wondering if anyone else has used it and what you think of it if you have?

@gjacobse said in UNRAID: Did it improve since 2017?:

I can't say I trust it,.. to few would suggest it, and the few that might mention it have regularly said - no.

That said - ... what I really find interesting is that I have now seen it mentioned twice now in almost as many days... Just seemed funny and needed some 'additional' exposure.

I have an end goal - and with that an expectation that it will be done similar to how (sane) enterprise solutions would be done. In some regard - I enjoy the challenge of making a number of differently aged platforms work together - but if I want to extend my marketable skills - they need to be,.. in line with the market.

Proxmox may not be common in day to day discussions, but it's been around long enough - and has proven itself that it is 'on par / scale' as most Virtualization software out. So, I'm learning that and rather enjoying it.

But, storage is a failing point for my rack currently. With the ReadyNas biting the dust about a year ago, I decided on a solution, and would rather build anything I put online.

I have several monster cases which could be used,.. or I could go with an prebuilt system... But they quickly exceed the permissible budget..

Leverage Proxmox and reuse those drives however you can along with it. There are many ways to utilize the drives you already have, it's just a matter of figuring out the best way to make it happen on your budget.

@scottalanmiller said in UNRAID: Did it improve since 2017?:

@gjacobse said in UNRAID: Did it improve since 2017?:

Co-worker came

UNraid was a scam. Now they just resell stuff. No value.

This.

As with all NAS type systems, you're really better off managing the storage yourself. NAS are really only for those that don't know enough to properly manage storage for themself.

I wonder what happened to Cloudflare this morning?

@dave247 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:

Another question: when I was researching Proxmox, someone mentioned that it doesn't fully support shared block storage currently. It was basically stated that Proxmox and others haven't come up with an equivalent to VMFS for shared block storage yet, so they are typically leveraging LVM to partition off portions of disk for each VM limit access to those regions to a singular host at a time.

I had looked at this comparison matrix which shows that Proxmox does fully support shared storage, so I'm unclear on the exact specifics and if it really matters in my situation. We basically have an iSCSI storage controller for VM storage and then our ESXi hosts for compute (mentioned in my original post).

All I really care about if we move to Proxmox is that we can store VMs in our storage controller and use the hosts for compute, similar to how we're doing it with VMware today.

The short version is, those people don't know what they're talking about.

Those are two completely different things, with next to no similarities. VMFS is a shared filesystem (better compared to something like Gluster.) LVM is a volume management layer that a filesystem sits on top of.

@dave247 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:

@scottalanmiller just out of curiosity, could you provide any arguments against using Hyper-V?

We are 99.9% Windows PC & Server shop where I work so naturally some might suggest us using Microsoft's Hyper-V. I have used it a handful of times in the past but it didn't seem very user friendly and seemed to have issues at the time, granted it was over 8 years ago.

1. Hyper-V standalone is being depreciated. It will cost you a Windows Server license to continue running.
2. Functionally more limited than any other option.
3. Performance.

There are reasons why not even Microsoft runs the entirety of their cloud services on their own platform.

@scottalanmiller said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:

FoxRMM is working on ProxMox backup monitoring being centralized and included in its next release too.

When does the rest of the world get a look at FoxRMM?

I'm in agreement with Scott here. There is a very short list of options, and Nutantix is not one of them.

Proxmox would be the primary choice (the backup server is really easy to work with as well), and XCP-NG if Proxmox can't be used.

Migrating from a VMWare to Proxmox is also really easy. I did a trial at a former work place.

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

I had a fun night last night adding storage to a server. When I went to move VM storage location, found a checkpoint (Hyper-V, ugh) from 2018.... Took a long while to coalesce.

This morning everything had finally coalesced and moved to the new storage array. Only took ~10 hours.

You're using Hyper-V? How's that been going and what management tools are you using?

I had some lunatic INSTALL it in the last two months! W.T.F.

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

I had a fun night last night adding storage to a server. When I went to move VM storage location, found a checkpoint (Hyper-V, ugh) from 2018.... Took a long while to coalesce.

This morning everything had finally coalesced and moved to the new storage array. Only took ~10 hours.

You're using Hyper-V? How's that been going and what management tools are you using?

Not by choice. Existing customers and just the built-in management tools.

I had a fun night last night adding storage to a server. When I went to move VM storage location, found a checkpoint (Hyper-V, ugh) from 2018.... Took a long while to coalesce.

This morning everything had finally coalesced and moved to the new storage array. Only took ~10 hours.