@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@momurda said in So we are leaving..............:

@Dashrender said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

are you saying that trump is the next Hitler?

If he wont, I will. Listen to the fucking horseshit that comes out of his mouth. 'Ban muslims' that is all you need to hear. Then go read some of Hitler's speeches. Then tell me their differences. The fact that half of Americans agree with him is beyond disgusting, and proof that at least half of Americans are still racist shitbags(I am American).

One historic thing that people often skip (great read is "America: Summer 1929") is that tons and tons of Hitler's policies did not originate in Germany but on Long Island where the US was regularly talking about rounding up the Jews or slaughtering them or whatever. Hitler had every reason to believe that his actions would placate rather than anger Americans and it was far closer to working than people will admit now most of a century later. That Germany was the one that had the higher Jewish population, the war and the triggers to put things in motion is mostly only happenstance and it was almost certainly going to happen somewhere in the west in that decade or the one that followed.

There was a little more going on, like the economic crysis after WW1 for example, but we are getting a little offtopic here I guess.,

@momurda said in So we are leaving..............:

@Dashrender said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

are you saying that trump is the next Hitler?

If he wont, I will. Listen to the fucking horseshit that comes out of his mouth. 'Ban muslims' that is all you need to hear. Then go read some of Hitler's speeches. Then tell me their differences. The fact that half of Americans agree with him is beyond disgusting, and proof that at least half of Americans are still racist shitbags(I am American).

Blame me for beeing a German citizen, I don't care in this case: What that scum did was something bestial, and I'm out for any Hitler comparisons. He just did something neither I nor anyone else can probably imagine. We Germans still have a hard time to get around this. There was just another sentence a few months ago against one of his last remaining soldiers: 97yr old Oskar Gröning was found guilty of "accessory to murder" (Google translator...) in roughly 300.000 cases.

So please, compare the next president with a chimp, I don't mind. But comparing someone to Hitler isn't something to be taken lightly.

@coliver said in RTS Games:

That being said C&C Red Alert 3 was very good. C&C Tiberium Wars and Tiberium Twilight were decent but really odd.

It's on sale on origin.com again: https://www.origin.com/en-de/store/buy/c-c-the-ultimate-collection/pc-download/bundle/ultimate-collection

@Dashrender said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

are you saying that trump is the next Hitler?

Sure not, I don't know enough about US politics. My point was just that we are seeing more and more nationalism, raciscm and corruption here in the EU. Just take a look at the last votes: "Front national" in France, AFD ("Alternative für Deutschland" or "Alternative for Germany" in English), just two random examples. It's taking a dangerous route and I think SAM pinpointed that quite good.

What is it that we all are afraid of? Other humans? Oh sorry, should have called them refugees I guess. But I don't think that's the whole story.

@JaredBusch yepp, like this:

@MattSpeller said in Weekend Plans:

@thwr said in Weekend Plans:

@MattSpeller Matt, having your own little country requires you to learn some "Schönschrift" (erm, EN: "beautiful scripture"). How are your peasants supposed to read all those rules and glory anthems if you write and draw like a 3yr old?

My ways are cryptic.

I guess, my lord.

@MattSpeller Matt, having your own little country requires you to learn some "Schönschrift" (erm, EN: "beautiful scripture"). How are your peasants supposed to read all those rules and glory anthems if you write and draw like a 3yr old?

@MattSpeller said in Weekend Plans:

@BRRABill said in Weekend Plans:

@MattSpeller said in Weekend Plans:

Camping on the beach with some friends

Where's the beach?

About.... there

The astute amongst you may notice that my previous pic was from the east coast of the island, about exactly opposite the red arrow.

Arrow? You mean the red snake?

@DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

So @thwr you don't like anyone else?

Yeah, love all of you... oO

@DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

So @thwr you don't like anyone else?

Still reading, was offline the last few hours ...

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:

@coliver said in So we are leaving..............:

@gjacobse said in So we are leaving..............:

I've not really followed the issue to know which side has more benefit - Member or non-Member of the EU. So I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I suppose time will tell...

Depends, it doesn't make sense to leave from an economic standpoint. It doesn't really make sense to leave from a social standpoint. One of the biggest arguments was that the EU was forcing the UK to open its borders to refugees and immigrants, leaving the EU allowed the UK to better protect itself from those forces.

"Protect itself" from helping those in need is the basic premise we hear in the EU.

No argument there... I agree with you but was trying to present the argument in an unbiased way.

I think protecting itself implies a danger rather than a dislike for helping those of non-European heritage. It's not about danger, it's about dislike. Which is why so many people are so upset about how the vote went from the outside. That the US is anti-Semitic is well known and the level of open racism in the US is what it is. The UK was supposed to be better but this seems to be stooping to the American level and that is very upsetting. This will make it so much easier for Americans to carry on with it to yet another level in their next elections too. It's a snowball effect, just like in the 1920s. Not that it will happen, but this is how it starts.

^^ This. Period. Thanks Scott.

@Mike-Davis Isn't that a source NAT rule? That would affect outbound traffic only

@Jimmy9008 said in So we are leaving..............:

@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

Because the EU was destroying this nation.

And... how exactly?

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is it me, or are we beating a dead horse with these questions and how many people get it wrong?

Sure, but a dead horse won't bite back. No, seriously, I'm afraid about the low level of knowledge some people are having. The quiz is just a little representation of that.

Shiny example of BYOD: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1657850-uh-oh-an-infected-home-laptop-took-down-our-network

That's why it's stricly forbidden for colleagues and students to attach anything foreign to my network. IEEE802.1x is one of the few dozen PRIO-1 projects on my to-do list... Just need some time(TM).

@brianlittlejohn Thanks, almost forgot to take it (again):

90%, not bad, but the other answers are just a joke. But, as we see, even in this case 10% manage to choose the wrong answer. BTW: User contributed, not by OGs.

@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/23/12020154/counter-strike-csgo-illegal-gambling-lawsuit-weapon-skins-valve

What?

Maybe he got shot once more right through a wall and just hates the game.

One of the reasons why I stopped playing it in 2001 or so, no fun at all to get kicked / banned all night long - even at LAN party's.

@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Yeah, good morning everyone ...

(Why the heck did I join a US IT community again? ;))

It's only ~3PM over there, so suck it up.

Plus we're more fun then everywhere else.

You bet :upside_down:

Yeah, good morning everyone ...

(Why the heck did I join a US IT community again? ;))

@hobbit666 said in So we are leaving..............:

@thwr said in So we are leaving..............:

What happened?

Do you not follow the news jk! The UK has just voted to leave the EU and go it alone!

Ah sorry, thought you lost your job or something. Well, let's see what the rest of the EU is loosing from a culinary point of view:

• French fries with vinegar
• Black Pudding
• Cullen Skink
• Rumbledethumps
• Stargazy Pie
• Sussex Pond Pudding
• Last, but not least:

while(1) 
{ 
  cout << "Haggis\n"; 
}

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ailbhemalone/18-weird-and-wonderful-british-foods-you-need-to-try?utm_term=.dkkJV0385#.mgNLmZEwv
http://britainexplorer.com/ten-strange-british-foods/

Edit: And yes, I'm aware of the news: https://mangolassi.it/topic/4768/non-it-news-thread/2215