Good morning!

I loved dried papaya. And it is good for the digestive system.

Pretty exciting to have @akp982 and so much of the "old gang" here!

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Always some amazing, DRM-free deals to be had there. Probably picking one or two up myself.

@ajstringham I'm pretty much a morning AND a night person but not a middle of the day person.

@akp982 said:

I feel like I'm late to the game... but i'm here

Still in the first 75 hours of the site!

@ajstringham The one thing that we've been discussing and that this thread is about.

http://www.eweek.com/cloud/godaddy-embraces-open-source-openstack-cloud.html

OpenStack is slowly taking over!

@ajstringham It's a helpdesk.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Gift-Adversity-Difficulties-Imperfections/dp/0399163719/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394088972&sr=8-2&keywords=adversity

I wanted to share this book as I think that it is very relevant to a community like this one. I actually got to hear Dr. Rosenthal speak on this topic recently. In a community like this, although this one is new and very few tough discussions are going on yet, we tend to get a "trial by fire" going where people present new ideas or things that they are thinking and people question them, probe them and really dig to see if their ideas make sense. It's a tough vetting process but it is really critical to how a community like this delivers value. It is what makes us better, stronger, wiser. I've written about this a lot - often because people are often shocked when first coming to a professional community like this and find that their ideas are often "attacked" and heavily vetted and things that they believed to be true might get torn apart. It can be surprising and hard to take.

But it is important to realize that this is done because we respect each other and value each other's growth - as well as the growth of the community as a whole. It is not done to hurt people or ruin someone's day. We all do it to each other. It is how we get better at what we do. It is a very important part of our careers and more than that... it can be good for personal growth too.

I just wanted to share.

@ajstringham I am excited to see it running on Linux and see how it compares to MS CRM. Could easily be a much better option.

NTG never sleeps.

@ajstringham said:

@Joyfano said:

@ajstringham You are still working?

Yup. Basically the whole NTG PBX team is working right now.

Around the clock!

Mint is very different than CentOS, but is a great desktop. Fedora is an okay desktop but is basically identical to CentOS. So it is a tradeoff. Fedora is better for learning, Mint is better for using.

This is a really big deal. ManageEngine ServiceDesk Plus is now completely free. This just happened in the last few days. Both the regular ServiceDesk Plus and the MSP version seem to be free. The announcement is so recent that it is not on their own website yet but news outlets have been reporting it a bit and there is a discussion going on on Reddit comparing it to other free or semi-free offerings. That they have an MSP version is a huge deal. And this is completely free, no ads. And, even better, it deploys on Linux!

http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1zmb7t/manageengines_servicedesk_now_free/

http://mspmentor.net/help-desk-and-noc-services/030514/manageengine-offers-free-help-desk-msps

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/05/zoho-seeks-to-disrupt-it-helpdesk-market-by-offering-servicedesk-for-free/

@Joyfano said:

@scottalanmiller " playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux."
what do you mean? my brain is not working...

Meaning people who use Linux as a desktop tend to spend their time finding cool applications to install, changing the wall paper, worrying about where the buttons are, etc. The same things that normal people using Windows do. But those "normal" things don't really teach you anything about Linux - not using Linux as a server. On a server you are really doing completely different tasks and when people say "learn Linux" it is the server tasks that they mean. Using it as a desktop encourages you to use it as a "end user" rather than as a "systems administrator." Nothing wrong with having a Linux desktop and it makes working with servers even easier (wait till you see how sweet the terminal integration is.)

@Joyfano said:

@scottalanmiller I see. So I have a goal for this. That's why I need to learn from very basic.

Just be aware that using it as a desktop can make that harder because you get caught up playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux.

I wish that I could nap right now.

@Joyfano said:

@ajstringham oh sorry .. how do u call it? Nap?

Yes, a nap.

@Joyfano said:

@scottalanmiller Its ok. it will teach me how to use. At least I will have an idea how to work with Linux server.

It's just like Windows - you just need a "reason" before you do it or there is nothing to do. If you install a Windows Server at home and have no goals with it, it will do nothing too.