@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
I still don't like the fact that they can tap the calls. again make your own choice
That's a necessary evil in any platform with certain features. It's why, if you want extreme security, you give up some features.
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
New York City schools won't be using Zoom anymore because of security concerns
As far as I know all security issues have been resolved.
now they were still evil for selling user data to FB - so make your choice..
I still don't like the fact that they can tap the calls. again make your own choice
So there are two ways to look at it.
The first: "All known issues are believed to have been resolved."
The second: "What caused issues like this to come up in the first place and how has the fundamental approach to security changed?"
When it comes to actual security, we are about #2, not #1. That they resolved the issues they were caught with is important, but doesn't change the actual issue. Now the later issue of leaking passwords looks to have been a mistake, accidents happen. But the bigger issue, of intentionally using their system to get info about customers and sell it and to sell it to a really evil company is so big that in reality, nothing they do short of firing all management that could have known and changing out the board would make them taken seriously from a security perspective. And AFAIK, they've not even addressed the issue.
So really... what have they done to actual fix anything? Really, nothing AFAIK.
@scottalanmiller said in Nodeweaver:
Ah, they've updated stuff. This is what their site says: "NodeWeaver takes advantage of an extremely sophisticated and flexible storage layer, based largely on the LizardFS distributed filesystem, and capable of performing reliably and in an extremely efficient way even for small number of nodes and disk drives."
You can always do LizardFS yourself for free, just like Gluster or CEPH.
Here is the original spot where I quoted them saying that they were using LizardFS (a Moose fork). 
@mroth911 said in Nodeweaver:
Found out Nodeweaver data structure is a fork off of Moose !
By "found out", you mean I mentioned it a few times above, lol.
Moose is commercial, LizardFS is the fork off of it. Nodeweaver publicly says that they use LizardFS. That's why I keep asking how this is better than using Proxmox with LizardFS which is completely free and fully documented.
The virtualization... do we only count hypervisors, or do we count the VMs? Or only the VMs? My desktop has full VMs that are used as if they are completely separate machines. How do we count them?
How do we count VDI, Terminal Servers, Thin Clients, etc?
Then take one of my machines. It doesn't dual boot, but it does have three disks that I can swap to boot different things. In this case, all Linux, but how do we count it? Three machines? One, but split between three different flavours? It's complex as any system tracking usage would see it as three unique machines.
When we look at OS comparison charts, they don't seem to track what we know about hardware sales. For example, we know that roughly 10% of all hardware sold per year, year over year, only effectively runs Linux. And that a maximum of about 7% of hardware sold can run macOS, and that much of that hardware is not used to run macOS.
Yet when we look at OS charts, they tend to show macOS with a huge market share much larger than that of Linux, when we know Linux shipments have to be at least 50% larger and are easily many times that. So something is definitely wrong in how data is being collected.
So here is one question... I know @gjacobse dual boots Linux and Windows. How does his machine get counted? Even if we knew all his details, does he count has a half point for Linux and a half point for Windows?
And that ignores the bigger problem of "how do we find out what he runs in the first place?" Because there is no mechanism for collecting that data.
So in another discussion we were talking about what operating systems constitute what percentage of the "market." This, of course, brings up loads of questions such as "do we mean which are sold? which are deployed? which are used? What constitutes usage? How are dual boot systems classified? How do we even track any of this after we define what we mean?"
It's a crazy difficult question to even ask, let alone try to answer.
So let's start with some numbers... it is estimated that worldwide since 2015, the industry sells about 250 - 350 million computers per year to end users.
Raspberry Pi sells around 8-10 million units a year. Apple sells around 18 million Macs a year. Chromebooks overtook Macs by 2016, so while numbers are harder to track down, that means roughly 19+ million Chromebooks sold per year.
There are so many variables involved, it's nearly impossible to figure out what anyone is working from. And just because a computer is sold as something, doesn't mean it continues to be that thing. For example, Macs are commonly used to run Windows, not macOS, and can be, but rarely are, used for Linux. Raspberry Pi can't run macOS, but can run Windows IoT, but we assume it all but never does.
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Numbers speak.
Not desktop use numbers. Those are meaningless as there is no known way to track them. It's all just estimates and absolutely no one knows what they are supposed to mean.
Systems purchased? Systems deployed? Systems used? I don't have any clue what that chart is pretending to show us.
What I do know is that in working on machines all over, we see alternative OSes often enough that while Windows is clearly still the most used, it's amazing how often non-tech people have already tested and deployed Linux. And how there would be no way for anyone to get a stat on that. Which makes me wonder... how do we get charts showing deployment rates when there is no known way to collect that data?
But more importantly, it's about usage. Not deployments. And numbers would speak, if we had some.
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Weird, why do they only say "not for Linux" on the site when they have it on the roadmap. Why not let people know it is coming, or for which Linux platforms?
I'm sure you can take a guess that it'll be available, at least first, for "the" most used Desktop Linux OS, Ubuntu.
I'm curious if we will have several options to install Edge on Linux using snap, deb and rpm.
Just Snap and/or AppImage would be fine for me.
@JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Weird, why do they only say "not for Linux" on the site
WTF is weird? That is a download link, and there is not a version for Linux of any kind yet.
Could they say something else? Sure. But that does not make what I see as weird.
Especially as you don't see that on any other OS.
I just find it weird that you go to the download site to see if it is available and instead of promoting the product, they shoot you down. They don't hint that you should look into it more, or check back eventually.
@JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
I can understand why Linux desktop OSs take the back seat, and even more-so Fedora Workstation.
Kinda of, except Android is Linux
Except kind of not also. Because, wait for it..... Linux is not an OS! OMG!
Right, but it shares most of the core API artefacts. Especially the ones used by a browser.
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Weird, why do they only say "not for Linux" on the site when they have it on the roadmap. Why not let people know it is coming, or for which Linux platforms?
I'm sure you can take a guess that it'll be available, at least first, for "the" most used Desktop Linux OS, Ubuntu.
Just because MS takes so long to make software? LOL Why would it take a while? That's the real question.
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
I can understand why Linux desktop OSs take the back seat, and even more-so Fedora Workstation.
Kinda of, except Android is Linux so in theory, they already have it working and just haven't released it. Would they want to modify it? Sure, but it is Linux ready before they even start, so making it not work universally from the get go is weird.
Weird, why do they only say "not for Linux" on the site when they have it on the roadmap. Why not let people know it is coming, or for which Linux platforms?
@Dashrender said in Windows 10- Cant Connect to this network?:
I have seen specific devices have a hard time getting/staying connected. My old Lenovo laptop had this issue. Replacing the wireless NIC solved the problem. Others I've updated the driver and it solved, and yet others never resolved. Recommended solutions at that point were - replace the AP, replace the laptop/device.
I didn't mention updating the AP, but I suppose that should be mentioned.
Agreed, this is more likely to be hardware or driver related, than to be Windows 10 related.
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
A linux version is coming.
or so they say.
They don't say that on their website. And why would it take more time given that they are building this as just more bloat on top of Chrome which is available on Linux already?
Just to give it the benefit of the doubt, since I can't try it but only read about it since MS doesn't seem to really believe in their product, I looked up the "features" of it, and all they can say about it is how it is worse than Google. No listed benefits, but the huge negative of being integrated with Bing.
So damn, even MS is slamming it.
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
top choice for users who are browser-aware.
Again with the fan boy stuff.
Don't throw your hate on me because it's better than the web browser you're so emotionally attached to... It's not my fault
If you're interested in greatness, here's where to find it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge
However, if you're also like me and enjoy some of the newer awesome features, check out the Dev Channel version, which is updated weekly: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download
I know, you're welcome!
What's so great about it? Isn't it just a copy of Chrome trailing behind? Does it work on other OSes?
Looks like they don't have much faith that those who CHOOSE would choose it. This is still a "by accident" for people who aren't discerning. Certainly not made of people who actually pay attention. Jared is spot on... it's "good enough" for the kind of people who are stuck on Windows (almost all because they don't realize that they don't have to be) and who use "whatever is there" because they aren't savvy enough to change.
Edge is "good enough", that fewer people are replacing it than before. But that's not to imply it is "good".
@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-edge-second-most-popular-web-browser/
I can see it taking over Google Chrome as top choice for users who are browser-aware. IMHO, Microsoft did it best.
hard to know, I've not had a user use it intentionally yet. It's all new branding and people are just confused.
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Why does it make a 70gb root partition on a 500 GB desktop install?
I agree, I hate that default.
The kids were playing Adventure Pals
