@mary said in Cloud Services and Delivery Models - CompTIA Network+ N10-007 Prof. Messer: At what point is it worth having your own data center? I would think the cost of it wouldn't be worth it for most. Your own, meaning you own the facility rather than colo? That one is pretty easy.... You would go to your own datacenter when the cost to get the features you need from colo exceeds the cost to build and maintain your own (this would likely happen at around 15-60% of filling a single colo location.) And your staffing needs will play into this, if the colo has 24x7 support, and you only need 16x6, you might lower your own cost that way. This is assuming you don't need the flexibility of putting equipment in and out from time to time or using multiple sites for it, like colo easily allows.

Very interesting to know that there are many services in the cloud.

@jmoore said in Cloud Models - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer: @mary said in Cloud Models - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer: @scottalanmiller so cloud is a buzzword? Oh yes I used to see commercials with a kid talking about the "Almighty Cloud". This was several years ago but not much has changed in the marketing. It's absolutely used wrong all the time, but that doesn't make cloud a buzz work, cloud is a real specific thing, but almost no one uses it correctly.

They are "migrating" one of my instances due to significant packet loss. This is what mine has said for 2 hours now.

@flaxking said in Staggering Cost of Azure and Windows on Cloud: I've heard that GitLab uses Azure in order to test their resiliency They do, it's caused a bit of outages there.

@storageninja (I know some Nutanix guys tried it but kept burning out SATA DOMs). Sata dom? Who the f*** still uses them? Even when I was a c++ coder in automation industry we were phasing out them 3 years ago! Just mainteinance of production stuff. Btw I see your point. For these applications MS releases Windows embedded compact only

SDX Central wrote about the deal as well: https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/google-scale-unite-hci-google-cloud-platform/2017/09/ Scott Lowe at VMware even blogged about it: https://blogs.vmware.com/feed-items/scale-computing-hc3-cloud-unity-seeks-to-tear-down-infrastructure-and-application-walls/ Outside of tech, the deal is being talked about by the likes of Business Inside and Forbes: http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/Scale-Computing-Collaborates-with-Google-Cloud-to-Remove-Barriers-to-Cloud-Computing-with-Hybrid-Cloud-MobilityHC3-Cloud-Unity-combines-Scale-HC3-and-Google-Cloud-Platform-on-the-same-LAN-allowing-1002732170 https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinwarren/2017/09/28/scale-computing-gets-cloudy-with-google/

@JaredBusch said in 2.50/month host available at Vultr: @scottalanmiller said in 2.50/month host available at Vultr: @guyinpv said in 2.50/month host available at Vultr: So moral of the story; don't bother with a $2.50 VULTR instance. I had no issue with mine. Right the system was probably totally overloaded at the time. I'm sure it bounces all over the place.

@jimk said in What's Even Cooler Than Cloud Computing? Space Computing: This is big news. Some will find it very good and cool, while others will be seriously freaked out by it. I'm curious to see what the actual payload will be for $2M per launch. Combine this with SpaceX new ISP in space, our entire Internet might be floating above us soon!

@aaronstuder said in Vultr automatic backups: @scottalanmiller and it stored in the same data center! So you still need an offsite backup of some sort. Only if the concern is the data center going up in flames. It's a stateless device. Doesn't really hold valuable data.

@scottalanmiller said in What is New in OpenStack Ocata Release: I wish that I had a dozen NUCs at the house to build this one, too. It's crazy how much hardware you need to do it the right way.

@JaredBusch said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud: @BRRABill said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud: BTW, offtopic, but I installed WordPress in a Vultr CentOS instance today. Holy cow ... SO FAST!!! Never going back to hosted..... Wait, did you use their CentOS image? That thing sucks. SELinux is disabled by default. Or did you install the CentOS 7 ISO from their ISO library? Come on. I an newbie level +1 ... ISO, baby!

@JaredBusch Understood. Thx for the detail.

@emad-r said in Automatically Add New Vultr Fedora Minion to Salt Master: @scottalanmiller said in Automatically Add New Vultr Fedora Minion to Salt Master: If you are using Vultr as your VPS or Cloud Computing IaaS platform, then you have some simple tools to make automating a Salt Minion installation even easier. Vultr allows for "boot scripts" which run upon initial VM creation, along with their automatically installed system keys. Adding a tiny script can make all of the difference between needing to set up a new VM and having the entire process be totally automated. Here is an example script that you can use. Notice that this is for Fedora and uses DNF. You will need a similar script for APT, YUM or other package management systems. #!/bin/sh dnf -y install salt-minion echo "master: you.salt.master" >> /etc/salt/minion systemctl restart salt-minion systemctl enable salt-minion That's all that it takes. Select the script when building your VM(s) and look for them to auto-populate in your Salt Master's key request list. But what will be the ID/name of this Fedora instance in salt master ? LOL, I got confused. Was thinking we were on Sodium, not salt. It'll be your hostname.

@scottalanmiller said in Linode and Vultr Current Pricing Q1 2017: Vultr has a much superior (IMHO) web interface. Linode's is not at all on par. Completely Agree 100%

@aaronstuder said in Vultr Adds a Free Firewall Service: Is it just me, or is Vultr killing it recently? Are they? With Linode's improved pricing, Vultr still is trailing for us in most use cases. It's a bit too costly and a bit too slow. We just get way more bang for the buck with Linode and Linode has load balancers which I think are a bit more important than firewalls. Vultr is doing well, but killing it seems a bit far as we are migrating off in several cases because it just isn't the best value compared to it's more mature competitor any longer. It's definitely doing better than Digital Ocean these days, though.

@Romo I should find out soon enough. Just finished spinning up a new VM for this.

crazy awesome performance That's KVM for you

https://mangolassi.it/topic/12560/digital-ocean-gets-load-balancers

They are going to integrate LetsEncrypt, too.

That's that. You can use extremely limited (2) VMs for testing or development, nothing more. You VPS, no cloud computing. No multi-tenant. So that is why Apple has no VPS presence, it's not allowed. You can get PS, but not VPS.

@Dashrender said in Ease of the "Cloud", Without the "Cloud": It surprises me that the costs could be lower. I would expect the economy of scale and lack of local IT support (or MSP/ITSP) requirements I would be allow prices to be driven lower. Of course you didn't say it would be lower, just said "often for much less cost." Scale is what makes it viable at all. Elastic scalability is an insanely expensive feature to deliver. And neither solution requires a local MSP/ITSP, that's part of the comparison. These are "plug and play" level products. But in reality, using a service like Amazon where the scale is really good you run into a heavy technical barrier to use that HC does not have (normally.) So if anything, cloud makes you have more ITSP requirements compared to HC. Cloud has a lot of hidden costs that HC does not have.

Thanks.

Talking RAID and RAIN for SSD.

@ntozier said in HPE Sells OpenStack and Cloud Foundry Business to Suse: HP seems to be selling off a lot of stuff recently... Definitely trimming the fat if nothing else.