@scottalanmiller said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

OMG short stroking.... it's been forever since I heard people talking about that.

Last time someone mentioned it to me was back in 2011. Had to correct the fool about the fact he was running on a huge HP 585 using 15K RPM SAS drives. Even if we could lay out the sectors that way, it was no longer applicable because the controller was the bottleneck at that point.

These old ass ways of thinking still permeate various circles. Especially in old school mainframe guys, the ones who don't giggle when you mention you once had a Wang.

@Jason said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@travisdh1 said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@Dashrender said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@Dashrender said:

@John-Nicholson said:

With De-duplication and Compression and RAID 5/6 Flash drives are cheaper than 10K RPM drives. We did the price comparisons with VSAN 6.2 came out and 10K is officially "dead" unless all your data is encrypted or something.

What are you using for De-Dup and compression? Is that something native in hypervisors now? if not, it adds to the cost column.

There's dedupe in Win2K12 at the OS level, assuming you are deduplicating NTFS file systems. If you are using encryption, that's the only way you will be able to dedupe data.

We use Pure Storage SANs, which support native dedupe at the block level. And it appears that VSAN supports block level dedupe as well.

https://blogs.vmware.com/virtualblocks/2016/02/10/whats-new-vmware-virtual-san-6-2/

Well, you're paying a LOT for those hardware platform - so at that point the extra space gained makes the SSD definitely more worthwhile performance wise. But not many SMB's are dealing with those things.

Which is very true. I work for a multi-tenant environment, so it's worth a few bucks to get the performance edge on those things. Dedupe is just an added bonus.

Which also brings up the fact that one should be hosting with us! We have the hardware one can only dream about. Why try to keep up when you can spend the cash on hosting which will take care of all of that for you?

Which is what company? The profile here doesn't say, and it's kinda silly to not get a good self-promotion in with that!

For various reasons, I don't mention who I work for, be it my previous employer Big Red V or my current one. Gotta maintain separation of professional and personal life.

Let's just say it's not Amazon, but if you follow cloud hosting, you would know who we are.

I thought you were still with the Big Red V?

Nope, they shitcanned three quarters of the US based staff last year. I walked out $10K richer, a new job in two days, and a pay raise.

If you are still hosting with them, flee as fast as your contract will allow you. They recently went through another round of shitcannings, this time it was management. They lost great people, and is no longer the same company I knew.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

Damn you people, now I had to buy one of these.

I'll see how cool it is when I get it on Thursday.

@travisdh1 said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@Dashrender said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@Dashrender said:

@John-Nicholson said:

With De-duplication and Compression and RAID 5/6 Flash drives are cheaper than 10K RPM drives. We did the price comparisons with VSAN 6.2 came out and 10K is officially "dead" unless all your data is encrypted or something.

What are you using for De-Dup and compression? Is that something native in hypervisors now? if not, it adds to the cost column.

There's dedupe in Win2K12 at the OS level, assuming you are deduplicating NTFS file systems. If you are using encryption, that's the only way you will be able to dedupe data.

We use Pure Storage SANs, which support native dedupe at the block level. And it appears that VSAN supports block level dedupe as well.

https://blogs.vmware.com/virtualblocks/2016/02/10/whats-new-vmware-virtual-san-6-2/

Well, you're paying a LOT for those hardware platform - so at that point the extra space gained makes the SSD definitely more worthwhile performance wise. But not many SMB's are dealing with those things.

Which is very true. I work for a multi-tenant environment, so it's worth a few bucks to get the performance edge on those things. Dedupe is just an added bonus.

Which also brings up the fact that one should be hosting with us! We have the hardware one can only dream about. Why try to keep up when you can spend the cash on hosting which will take care of all of that for you?

Which is what company? The profile here doesn't say, and it's kinda silly to not get a good self-promotion in with that!

For various reasons, I don't mention who I work for, be it my previous employer Big Red V or my current one. Gotta maintain separation of professional and personal life.

Let's just say it's not Amazon, but if you follow cloud hosting, you would know who we are.

@Dashrender said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@Dashrender said:

@John-Nicholson said:

With De-duplication and Compression and RAID 5/6 Flash drives are cheaper than 10K RPM drives. We did the price comparisons with VSAN 6.2 came out and 10K is officially "dead" unless all your data is encrypted or something.

What are you using for De-Dup and compression? Is that something native in hypervisors now? if not, it adds to the cost column.

There's dedupe in Win2K12 at the OS level, assuming you are deduplicating NTFS file systems. If you are using encryption, that's the only way you will be able to dedupe data.

We use Pure Storage SANs, which support native dedupe at the block level. And it appears that VSAN supports block level dedupe as well.

https://blogs.vmware.com/virtualblocks/2016/02/10/whats-new-vmware-virtual-san-6-2/

Well, you're paying a LOT for those hardware platform - so at that point the extra space gained makes the SSD definitely more worthwhile performance wise. But not many SMB's are dealing with those things.

Which is very true. I work for a multi-tenant environment, so it's worth a few bucks to get the performance edge on those things. Dedupe is just an added bonus.

Which also brings up the fact that one should be hosting with us! We have the hardware one can only dream about. Why try to keep up when you can spend the cash on hosting which will take care of all of that for you?

@Dashrender said:

@John-Nicholson said:

With De-duplication and Compression and RAID 5/6 Flash drives are cheaper than 10K RPM drives. We did the price comparisons with VSAN 6.2 came out and 10K is officially "dead" unless all your data is encrypted or something.

What are you using for De-Dup and compression? Is that something native in hypervisors now? if not, it adds to the cost column.

There's dedupe in Win2K12 at the OS level, assuming you are deduplicating NTFS file systems. If you are using encryption, that's the only way you will be able to dedupe data.

We use Pure Storage SANs, which support native dedupe at the block level. And it appears that VSAN supports block level dedupe as well.

https://blogs.vmware.com/virtualblocks/2016/02/10/whats-new-vmware-virtual-san-6-2/

@John-Nicholson said:

@PSX_Defector If you want a list of VMware cloud air network companies to apply at I know a few

I'm happy where I'm at, I'm sure I'll be talking with you sometime anyways. I am the guy in Systems now.

And Orrie says hi.

@travisdh1 said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@ryan_do said:

A few other perks include reimbursement of the cost of your Internet connection

How about paying for my OC3?

A personal OC3? Want to run their backup data center do you?

Be surprised how cheap it can get on contract from some CLECs and even some ILECs.

Last time I spec'd out a pipe from AT&T, with an OC3 to the office and some colo space in a DC near my house, a 100Mbps ethernet loop into the cage would only cost me about $900 a month. Of course, that doesn't include internet access, just a dumb pipe straight to the DC. I would mooch off whatever I could get from there. Even then, if I had to buy access, would probably run me ~$600 to $800 for AT&T.

In certain parts of the country, you can get some serious bandwidth for reasonable prices. With cheap access, I was thinking of running a fax service from the house. Some CLEC was offering $1200 DS3 pipes (45Mbps) with a full PRI a while back. Combine that with some cheap equipment, I would have a reasonable revenue stream for pretty much nothing.

@ryan_do said:

A few other perks include reimbursement of the cost of your Internet connection

How about paying for my OC3?

Of course, I'm a Windows guy in a Vmware world, so probably couldn't get a job over there anyways.

Also notice on the map that it lists Ft. Worth as one of the FiOS major cities. Fact of the matter is that Verizon doesn't service Ft. Worth, AT&T does. There isn't a single VZ CO in the city of Ft. Worth:

https://www.telcodata.us/search-area-code-exchange-by-company-state?company=GTE&state=TX

There is the potential for some overlap, like having a phone number in one town but your mailing address is another. So yes, there might be someone in the city limits of Buffalo who has FiOS, but odds are it has a caveat.

@scottalanmiller said:

It's there on the map, along with Syracuse.

http://fiberforall.org/fios-map/

County, not city. And I already know about Syracuse. Buffalo is what I'm talking about.

VZ is super selective on where they will pop things in. NYC bitched because they were not wiring everyone at the same time. Until Corning came out with the flexible fiber stuff, MDUs were FiOS biggest weakness.

@scottalanmiller said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Buffalo isn't bad at all, it was the very first FIOS city.

Nope. That would be Keller, TX. Buffalo doesn't even have FiOS.

http://legacy.wgrz.com/story/news/local/buffalo/2015/08/05/verizon-fios-availability/31194327/

It really does, I've used FIOS in Buffalo. Don't know what that story is about, but we were using 300Mb/s FIOS in Buffalo at the same time as that article. Sensational journalism again, I am guessing. Buffalo was definitely at the cusp of FIOS rollouts and the speeds are great and everywhere we've dealt with in Buffalo seems to have it, even rough neighbourhoods and low rent areas.

Nope, because big red V avoids rough areas with a passion. That's why Keller was chosen as the test bed and took them close to 15 years to even consider installing in Baltimore.

Without access to WFA, I can't tell you exactly where it is available, but upstate NY is considered one of the least penetrated areas of Verizon. Let's put it this way, the small sliver of Verizon ILEC service in CT was wired well before Buffalo. If there has been FiOS penetration, it's a VERY recent install and/or outside of the official city limits. I am unaware of it, and I spend tons of time involved with it.

@scottalanmiller said:

Buffalo isn't bad at all, it was the very first FIOS city.

Nope. That would be Keller, TX. Buffalo doesn't even have FiOS.

http://legacy.wgrz.com/story/news/local/buffalo/2015/08/05/verizon-fios-availability/31194327/

@Jason said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Family friendly site and all.

Why do we allow @PSX_Defector here then?

@johnhooks said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@johnhooks said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@johnhooks said:

No one would think that's reasonable. Around here, you can figure around 80% is take home, until the next tax bracket.

Unless you plan on making triple what you make now, the "next" nominal bracket is the 28% one. And that rate is only for the money made after that threshold. I'm deep into that bracket.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/10/30/irs-announces-2015-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/#1425d2006f71

Let's break down what someone should be seeing in a paycheck. To make this simple, let's assume state income tax out of the equation, because they vary from flat 3.75% in Illinois, a progressive scheme of up to 5.25% in Oklahoma to 0% in Texas. We will also assume you work for a company, so standard W2 wages and we will assume they are cheap ass bastards who went "hurr durr obamacare" and refuse to offer health insurance. Medicare is 1.45% flat, no matter how much you make. FICA is 6.2% up to $118K, then it's nothing. Federal taxes are a progressive tax system, from 10% up to 39.6%. Consult your local tax professional for more info.

If you are making $40K flat, single, taking the standard deduction, your AGI would be ~34K. $2480 would go to SS, $580 would go to Medicare. The 34K would put you in the 15% tax bracket, 10% up to $9K then 15% on the rest, $3716, for $4638 total. If you set up your W4 correctly, you should have ~$620 a week net on $769 gross, or 19%.

These calculations change with your situation. I make a lot more than $40K, my tax deduction is 24% per paycheck with an effective rate of around 19% after all my deductions and such.

If you ever hear people quoting some crazy numbers on taxes, always break it down on them to find out exactly what they are getting. You will find that most people are talking out their ass.

Ah sorry I should have clarified my position more. I'm married filing jointly so the next for me would be $74,901. Plus PA state tax is 3.07% plus the local township/borough junk here which changes drastically depending on the area and is charged both where you live and where you work (in our side of the state this can end up being 2-3%). I also wasn't counting any deductions in that so that does make a difference in your favor.

With married joint, your AGI would be 13K versus the 6k. So you would be making ~90k raw before you hit my tax bracket.

People always forget it's AGI, not what you make. I made decent 6 figures last year, woo gambling wins, but my AGI is well under that.

Ah true good point, I have a daughter too so it would be more, what is it like 17k?

Ya I just looked it up. It's 4k for each child.

There is also a $3K child tax credit. So, using my $40K example, you would be at ~$700 a week per paycheck if you set it up right. Paying close to nothing in federal income tax. Then there is EITC, which would bring you down to 0 if not make money off the whole thing.

Deductions are good. Credits are better.

@johnhooks said:

@PSX_Defector said:

@johnhooks said:

No one would think that's reasonable. Around here, you can figure around 80% is take home, until the next tax bracket.

Unless you plan on making triple what you make now, the "next" nominal bracket is the 28% one. And that rate is only for the money made after that threshold. I'm deep into that bracket.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/10/30/irs-announces-2015-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/#1425d2006f71

Let's break down what someone should be seeing in a paycheck. To make this simple, let's assume state income tax out of the equation, because they vary from flat 3.75% in Illinois, a progressive scheme of up to 5.25% in Oklahoma to 0% in Texas. We will also assume you work for a company, so standard W2 wages and we will assume they are cheap ass bastards who went "hurr durr obamacare" and refuse to offer health insurance. Medicare is 1.45% flat, no matter how much you make. FICA is 6.2% up to $118K, then it's nothing. Federal taxes are a progressive tax system, from 10% up to 39.6%. Consult your local tax professional for more info.

If you are making $40K flat, single, taking the standard deduction, your AGI would be ~34K. $2480 would go to SS, $580 would go to Medicare. The 34K would put you in the 15% tax bracket, 10% up to $9K then 15% on the rest, $3716, for $4638 total. If you set up your W4 correctly, you should have ~$620 a week net on $769 gross, or 19%.

These calculations change with your situation. I make a lot more than $40K, my tax deduction is 24% per paycheck with an effective rate of around 19% after all my deductions and such.

If you ever hear people quoting some crazy numbers on taxes, always break it down on them to find out exactly what they are getting. You will find that most people are talking out their ass.

Ah sorry I should have clarified my position more. I'm married filing jointly so the next for me would be $74,901. Plus PA state tax is 3.07% plus the local township/borough junk here which changes drastically depending on the area and is charged both where you live and where you work (in our side of the state this can end up being 2-3%). I also wasn't counting any deductions in that so that does make a difference in your favor.

With married joint, your AGI would be 13K versus the 6k. So you would be making ~90k raw before you hit my tax bracket.

People always forget it's AGI, not what you make. I made decent 6 figures last year, woo gambling wins, but my AGI is well under that.

@JaredBusch said:

@PSX_Defector said:

Highest sales tax in the US is in Chicago at 10.45%, 6.25% to the state, 1.75% to Cook County, 1.25% to the city itself and another 1% for Illinois DOT. They also have a very generous non-taxable bracket, unlike Texas which is 8.25% no matter what.

And that is why the stores over by the train station near me advertise "no cook county taxes" on their windows.

Winnebago County is 1% while DuPage is only .25%. DeKalb is 0%, so take it what you will.

Taxes are always relative. Rockford doesn't have the property values of DuPage county while DeKalb taxes the ever loving shit out of farms. So they come to an equilibrium.

@JaredBusch said:

My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

Using the big red V's paycheck, because my current employer pays for my health insurance, mine was ~28% with health insurance, 401(k), and various other insurance parts. Mine right now is 27% all in, with 401(k).

Of course, you got kids and wife and shit, so your insurance cost a lot more than mine does, even when I have to pay for it. That's why I generally don't count that as part of the deduction stuff, because it varies so widely. Work for a good company like mine, it's paid for completely for me. Work for a good company like mine and got fifty kids, you will be paying some cash. Work for big red V with fifty kids, only 4 times what I paid for myself.

@Dashrender said:

$40K - holy hell - Texas must just be screwing it's people over like crazy.. I've never hear of a family plan costing $40K/yr to cover a family of 4. Did you have every pre-existing condition in the book? and they are hedging their bets on that?

Last time I looked on the marketplace for myself, no subsidies, was ~$400 per month just for me for a decent plan without a five digit deductible. Of course, I don't have to buy, I just use Indian Health Services. The tribal doc will patch me up for nuthin'.

My mother, with current cancer and a history of heart attacks and strokes, is paying $1.5K for hers.

So yeah, $40K, something is seriously wrong and some info is being trotted out that is way out of line. Even in North Carolina, where only BCBS is selling plans, isn't that much.