@DustinB3403 said:

From Kingston for the DL360 G5 here's there price.

Full 64GB Kit.

Kingston ram is way over priced though. We don't buy that for our servers in our data center.. Not sure why you would for home.

@scottalanmiller said:

Not a bad price. Is this for home? Proliants like this are insanely loud.

What's the best option for quite home ones. is something like an HP z or Dell precision workstations the only good options for something quiet?

@IT-ADMIN said:

but there are some people still working with ISA

Yeah, but that doesn't mean the product isn't Dead/EOL. There are likely still people on windows 2000.

If you are just looking for file backup. Ditch windows backup and use something like: http://www.cobiansoft.com/cobianbackup.htm

Have you looked at logs? What changed 2 days ago?

ISA Server has long been dead and newer versions are called Forefront TMG which is it? and which version?

I doubt CN8 will reset it, It's not the kind of header for a jumper you'd see for a reset option. looks more like a header for a buzzer/speaker or something. (And there is audio circuitry around it). could even be for chassis intrusion.

@Dashrender said:

@Jason would post whatever he paid and the quantity of devices being monitored).

We bundle our subscriptions for Service Desk Plus, Opmanager and desktop central. Pricing is all together for us.

@Dashrender said:

In other words you're suggesting only the 2 disk models? Otherwise a commodity server is more cost effective?

Well you can pick up used 16Bay SATA/SAS servers for around $100-$200 on ebay.

DAS also means if you get something like cryptolocker on the fileserver then it will likely mess with your daily backups. I hope you have off site backups too.

Also I'd use something else besides windows backup - it kinda sucks and means you need it to recover your data.

@JaredBusch said:

Piss on that. As a vendor, you better give me MSRP on the website or I will be hard pressed to ever buy from you.

manage engine product almost all need quotes, they have so many different ways of licensing and addons and such. We just do the subscription based ones.

@Dashrender said:

how much?

You'd need to get a quote for your network. It depends on what all you are monitoring.

@JaredBusch said:

Spiceworks network monitoring is a separate tool from the scanner.

And a bit of a resource hog. Opmanager is totally worth the money over it.

@IT-ADMIN said:

non IT manager who consider those ads as malwares and know nothing about spicework,

Why would anyone outside of IT care about this? This is IT's decision.

@Dashrender said:

How did training go for users that needed to use TS/RDS for somethings, but not others? How do you manage favorites between their desktop and the RDS session? Do you only publish IE for those things? of a full desktop?

It's still pretty darn expensive no matter what way you slice it...

It's no different than users than need to use other RDS for GreatPlains and other applications via RDP. We don't do published apps as it causes some issues with some apps, it's all full desktops. We don't do anything with their favorites, they just copy paste a link to it if they need something with flash or java, It's not meant to be their main workspace just for sites that get blocked at the network firewall (Palo Alto's in the datacenter) level for desktops because we block flash and java. Doesn't really cost much to add an additional RDP server (you just need user cals for max concurrent users, not for all users) , and the cost is very minimal compared to the impact on security java and flash have, many infections come from those anymore, and we have to report any infections or breaches publicly as a publicly traded company. IMO a RDS is what in most cases should be considered over VDI, a VDI only needs to be looked at if there are limitations that RDS could not handle.

@scottalanmiller said:

How much does it cost?

There's a free version, but the full version is $35

@Dashrender said:

But i would never pay the price for a TS/RDS server to support this one app

We pay for ones just to support flash/java.. Keeps that crap off the desktops.

There's always the option of terminal servers.

@Dashrender said:

that would require either a VDI setup, or SA on every workstation

Running a VM locally requires neither.