Working on a pretty bad-ass bash script...

@scottalanmiller said:

@Minion-Queen said:

I have spoken to so many College Grads that have no job experience at all (never worked) and went to college for their dream job, that there are no jobs in, and spent $80K to do it.

Who then, likely, lack the experience and skills necessary to excel even at very basic jobs like hotels, restaurants or whatever. There are so many jobs out there for people who can't land their rare, dream job but people who blow all of their youth dreaming of that dream job rather than preparing to be a good worker are at a major disadvantage. I started working on a farm as a kid and in a business the moment I could at sixteen and have worked solidly, without a break, ever since. I had tons of just basic "work" experience before graduating high school. I learned far more from working at restaurants, nursing homes, hotels, grocery stores, etc. than I ever did in school. People who go to college instead of working skip all of that learning.

The other issue is that college doesn't teach you a lot of lessons that you will learn FOR A GUARANTEE at that job at the grocery store, in retail, etc. Basic customer service skills, basic human interaction skills, even basics like making change, all can be learned at pretty much any entry level job, and it's amazing how the principles you learn from those skills carry over into a more professional environment. The fundamental lessons you learn are crucial for success in a professional environment, but often can't really be learned in that environment. So many people bypass all these crucial skills because these jobs are "beneath them" and then wonder why people who did those jobs are getting ahead and taking the jobs they worked for years at college to get. I've said to many people for years that someone who knows their ****, doesn't have the piece of paper and is willing to work hard will always get farther ahead in their career than the person who thinks that having a piece of paper with their name on it and some degree is a free-ride ticket. That's basically what kids are told in schools nowadays, is that college is a free-ride ticket. You get the degree, the rest will take care of itself, and it's just not true.

@scottalanmiller said:

Yeah, not too bad.

Seems pretty straightforward.

@nadnerB said:

@KatieUnitrends said:

@nadnerB I like what you did there.

lol, not me
 
 
 
 
 
 
(It's a Chrome extension called New Mustachio.)

And now I have it installed...

I had a kid come into my retail job the other day who said he was going to be going to college for networking/IT. I think I might have possibly offended the mother some when I told him that a college degree in IT was, in essence, a waste of time and to go for business if he wanted to go to college and be in IT. I explained how academic IT training was often well behind the current curve and even a lot of the foundation stuff they teach you isn't really relevant. I told him if he wanted to learn, build a lab and start playing. I could tell this was a kid who wanted to "get into IT" but really had no clue how to proceed. I know most of the stuff I told him will go unheeded, but if he does indeed get into IT, he might look back and see that this retail tech actually knew what he was talking about. I also encouraged him to start building an online presence and to get his name out there.

The point, though, about how you "need" college to be successful in $career_field_of_choice is generally ludicrous. Unless, like @scottalanmiller said, you are going for accounting, law, medicine or education, you generally can do just as well or BETTER without a degree than with one.

@scottalanmiller said:

@handsofqwerty said:

Went from work to an onsite last night, which might have been the best one ever! We went and saw a friend in a nursing home, went and my onsite bought me dinner and then offered to let me spend the night at her house (she's in her early 80s), but I said I didn't have a clean shirt for work, so she bought me one of those too! Then we went back to her house and just talked the rest of the evening. It was too late at that point to do the computer work for her. I'm going to go back another time and do the work, and she offered to let me stay over again. It just felt safer than going home.

That's different!

That it was. She's my third grandma though...

Went from work to an onsite last night, which might have been the best one ever! We went and saw a friend in a nursing home, went and my onsite bought me dinner and then offered to let me spend the night at her house (she's in her early 80s), but I said I didn't have a clean shirt for work, so she bought me one of those too! Then we went back to her house and just talked the rest of the evening. It was too late at that point to do the computer work for her. I'm going to go back another time and do the work, and she offered to let me stay over again. It just felt safer than going home.

@IRJ said:

@handsofqwerty said:

@IRJ said:

I don't even think @handsofqwerty saw the Upload File section

They've changed the site several times since the last time I did this. I do everything in store.

I know, its not on you. It's on staples web team

Yeah, and believe me, we have to deal with a non-functional website just as much as the public, if not more...

@scottalanmiller said:

That might work. I'm not very expert with expect. Although what are the chances that expect is installed?

I typed "expect" into the CLI and got this:

expect1.1>

So I assume it is.

@thecreativeone91 said:

So the customer makes IT decisions and all just do the work? So basicly everyone there is L1 techs and the customer is the IT director and systems engineer

Basically. This client has some Cisco guys who are the admins and we basically report to them as the point of contact with the customer. I agree that keys would be better, but there are literally over 1000 devices between two of this company's stores, and they'd have to setup keys for over a dozen people to each device. Is there any easy or feasible way to do that. Right now we use AD creds to authenticate, which I assume are part of a group with just authentication rights to those devices.

@scottalanmiller said:

@handsofqwerty said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Install SSHPass to handle this.

Yeah, I saw this. They'd have to get permission from the customer to install it on their monitoring box (even though it's our appliance that we designed).

So the customer is blocking security AND productivity?

We designed the system, but once we deploy it to the customer, we have to have permission to make ANY changes to it. Even to change monitoring on devices that we know have changed (interface monitoring, etc), we have to create a request and they have to approve it. It seems very convoluted to me but that's the procedure here. I'm not in a position to try and fix business practices at this point.

@scottalanmiller said:

@handsofqwerty said:

@scottalanmiller said:

An SSH password? Why is there a password being passed in a script? That kind of defeats the purpose. Use SSH keys instead. No password needed, far more secure.

We're remoting into a Cisco device, so I don't know if that even supports keys, and this is the way we do it with this client. I can't do much about that, so we need a way to pass a password through the command if we can...

That would be insanely sad for Cisco security if they did not.

This is REALLY insecure. The client should be furious if they were to find this out. Putting passwords into scripts is pretty nuts. That means not only is it being put into text on screen for no reason and the security of the connection reduced but it is also being saved in the shell history and put on disk over and over again.

Yeah, well, this is what I have to work with. Again, if I was running it, I could have us setup keys, but it's not my call. I use keys for all my servers, and never SSH into any server directly anymore. I jump to my jump server and go from there, because I have keys setup from there.

@scottalanmiller said:

Install SSHPass to handle this.

Yeah, I saw this. They'd have to get permission from the customer to install it on their monitoring box (even though it's our appliance that we designed).

@scottalanmiller said:

Just for reference, when you get upset with the ridiculous things that @Lakshmana's boss makes him do, this is one of those. This should trigger an audit of the "Cisco experts" that they have working there. No first day networking guy would do this or let anyone in the shop do this. This means, to me, there isn't one junior networking level, or higher, person in the shop. This is a high school level mistake. No consulting firm, anywhere, should ever have this happen. An L0 might do this, but anyone at L1 helpdesk or higher should know never to do this. So whoever set this up, and whoever oversees those people and whoever makes the hierarchy all screwed up royally.

Not my call. Maybe it was recommended, maybe not. I have no way of knowing. Maybe the customer didn't want it. Again, I have no way of knowing.

I have no control over that, sadly.

@scottalanmiller said:

An SSH password? Why is there a password being passed in a script? That kind of defeats the purpose. Use SSH keys instead. No password needed, far more secure.

We're remoting into a Cisco device, so I don't know if that even supports keys, and this is the way we do it with this client. I can't do much about that, so we need a way to pass a password through the command if we can...

So here is the scenario...

I need a way, on Ubuntu, to SSH into multiple devices (script it to run one at a time against a list), preferably with a password in the command, run one command, and exit. Right now I got the command working, but it prompts for a password each time, and you have to enter each IP manually. I'm sure you can use a list using a variable or a shell script somehow but I wasn't sure how you'd do it. Basically this is the command:

ssh domain/username@IP 'show int <interface> | inc <info to extract>'

So what I need is a way to include a password in the command and use a variable to run the command against a list of IPs. We can log the output to a text/log file. That's fine. If there was a way to do it to a CSV, that'd be even better. This is a sample output:

						 ACCESS OF A PRIVATE SYSTEM
<banner message>
  Description: <ISP> CKT ID: <the circuit ID here>

Thanks!

@IRJ said:

I don't even think @handsofqwerty saw the Upload File section

They've changed the site several times since the last time I did this. I do everything in store.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Sparkum said:

@handsofqwerty

That really sucks.
But you left servers in your back seat!?

Good question

My back has been bothering me and a Poweredge is not exactly a light device to carry up a flight of stairs. Combine that with the fact I hope I won't be in this apartment much longer and I don't think there will be a need.

I wasn't the only one on the street either who had their vehicle broken into.