@tonyshowoff said:

@BBigford said:

@tonyshowoff said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.

Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)

I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.

That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.

I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?

Well when the interviewer brings up that some people compare open source to communism, something that actually almost never happens in real life, his face turns bright red, he flips out and gives a very 1950s ice America view of life under Marxism. As someone from such a country, it was really strange. It did seem like he was trying to restrain himself.

Haha I forgot about some of those lines. Thanks for the refresh. Been a while since I've watched that flick.

We have a lot of databases on our Exchange 2013 server. Definitely exceeding the 5 allowed to be mounted at one time. I'm dwindling down databases and combining them into only a couple. I know I can do a shell move all mailboxes to a new database, but is there a way in 2013 to actually see who is associated within the admin console? Someone asked me and I can't find it. I know you could in 2007 and I believe also in 2010 since they both used EMC instead of the new EAC.

Maybe I'll look at Rocket or OF then. SfB is still being pushed hard by some, but recent events have me looking into another direction entirely.

@Dashrender said:

@dafyre said:

My Last place used openFire exclusively for internal stuff. I may switch my family from Skype over to RocketChat.

why manage your own (unless you're not) and instead use telegram?

100% required by customer contracts. No internal communication can be hosted by a provider. Has to be something on-premise.

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

So what does everyone else use? I know SAM has a Rocket setup mixed with SfB that is not being used, instead just using Skype... coliver is using AIM still. Anyone else using an on-premise solution? Preferably free & open source.

@scottalanmiller said:

@wirestyle22 said:

Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

Smokey the Bear has the answer... Only you can prevent Windows deployments.

Haha classic!

I've read that Jabber is free, then I've read it's only free for CUCM customers. Is that true? If it is free to all, how do you stack it up to Rocket Chat? I'm looking to step away from Skype for Business and looking for solid alternatives. 95% of this goal is just to IM internally. Anything beyond that would be nice to have but easy to live without. I know that SAM did a Rocket Chat setup thread, just looking at all alternatives that are free in business like Rocket Chat, OpenFire, etc.

@tonyshowoff said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.

Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)

I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.

That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.

I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?

@scottalanmiller said:

Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.

Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)

I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.

@scottalanmiller Awesome. As always, thanks for the insight Scott. I'm headed home for the day. Have a good one.

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use...

No, we DO have it running, but we don't use it. We use Skype (real Skype, the one that works, not that SfB garbage, we tried that and it is pretty much useless) because our system is mostly for talking to customers, not internally. So since we are stuck with Skype to talk to customers it makes both SfB and Rocket pretty much useless to us.

What did you find so terrible about SfB? I've read complaints about video/audio quality, connectivity, etc. Are there any specifics you can mention? It is all helpful when I'm writing up this stuff in a proposal of what to do for now and the coming years.

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller For internal, I know the question gets posed "it's internal, how do you figure it'll get compromised?" My thought was a compromised internal machine can feed that data to an external source (as unlikely as that might be, they are questions that might be raised).

Internal is always the most dangerous. SMBs just don't have the resources to secure and monitor things like big enterprise cloud providers can.

Yeah and see that's what I'm afraid of. Purchasing a closed source solution, you expect certain levels of security so I can redirect my efforts somewhere else, instead of hardening our IM services. Going with something like OpenFire, I don't expect the security to be on the same level because the development is nowhere near as robust because it is free, so expectations are much lower for that kind of thing.

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use...

No, we DO have it running, but we don't use it. We use Skype (real Skype, the one that works, not that SfB garbage, we tried that and it is pretty much useless)

Hah, now that is funny. I had read from so many Lync admins that Lync was great, until SfB came into play. So if Skype didn't exist, what would you do...? That's kind of where we're at, "We want something like Skype for Business. Something that has mobile app support, secure, and we can talk to external clients with. But we don't want it to be Skype because it's a pain to manage, and it's expensive." Pretty much 90% is IM, other 10% is screen sharing. Company uses WebEx so rolling that in would be nice, but I guess it's not crucial since the cost of not using Skype for Business forever would justify having something like X-solution and WebEx.

@scottalanmiller For internal, I know the question gets posed "it's internal, how do you figure it'll get compromised?" My thought was a compromised internal machine can feed that data to an external source (as unlikely as that might be, they are questions that might be raised).

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

Well it is on premises so up to "me" to secure it. So I lack the security team that MS has to secure things. As a communications channel it is pretty similar. If my goal is to secure the communications from random people, SfB is probably more secure. If it is to keep the communications away from the government, Rocket.Chat would be the more secure.

I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use... Any tips on securing it for internal use? Using the mobile app is way up in the air... not really a concern at this point as that would be a separate issue since we'd have to worry about firewall rules and if it is pointing to our internal connection instead of being exposed to the public cloud.

@scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I'm slowly going insane...

It hit me pretty much all at once in February 1999.

All at once? Eesh, I'm sorry. What happened? Just a spring that needed to decompress all at once?

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

Yeah I ran across that one in the past. I was going to circle back around and check it out. Recent information that I can't post about on here is that we have to go with Skype, sucks to say.