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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said

      Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

      The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

      So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

        @scottalanmiller said

        Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

        The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

        So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

        Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Well that sucks.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

            Well that sucks.

            The good news is that this is Xen. Reinstall, import the storage repository, and import the configs, shouldn't take more than an hour.

            I'd be nervous about putting that into production till I figured out what caused the issue.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said

              Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

              It came back "normal" after a reboot, but obviously a lot of functionality was hosed.

              I tried running a dd on this machine the other day, and it was taking forever.

              After about 90 minutes I stopped it, and it had only done 15GB thus far. (Of a 64 GB stick.)

              Possible maybe the USB stick was going bad, and finally gave up the ghost?

              Is it possible cancelling (^C) dd would have done anything to the source USB stick?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                dd only reads from the if device, it does not modify it. So no.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said

                  I'd be nervous about putting that into production till I figured out what caused the issue.

                  Oh yeah. Fortunately this was on my test machine.

                  I'm more nervous that moving the logs caused this. Is there any chance that XS needs those logs set up the way they have them?

                  Is anyone here actually moving their logs, or does everyone just write them to USB?

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said

                    dd only reads from the if device, it does not modify it. So no.

                    Would the crazy slow speed perhaps indicate potential impending failure? I mean, even at USB2 that is slow. It was doing 3MBps.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                      Is it possible cancelling (^C) dd would have done anything to the source USB stick?

                      dd input is read only, I'd suspect the flash drive initially. While I run hypervisors on them, I don't trust them at all. Gotta keep those backups.

                      dd would take a long, long time if you have it copying something like /proc, /sys, or /dev.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                        Is anyone here actually moving their logs, or does everyone just write them to USB?

                        Ours had to be built to spinning SATA sadly due to USB port issues. They are not back up yet after the move (much lower priority than the big Scale cluster so have not looked at them yet and won't until I am back in Rochester) but once they are back up, log shipping will be going to ELK and we will attempt to stop local writing even so.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said

                          Ours had to be built to spinning SATA sadly due to USB port issues. They are not back up yet after the move (much lower priority than the big Scale cluster so have not looked at them yet and won't until I am back in Rochester) but once they are back up, log shipping will be going to ELK and we will attempt to stop local writing even so.

                          I am pretty sure once I get back from my mini trip over the weekend that I am going to be reinstalling XS on the extra RAID array I have in my production server.

                          I know everyone at ML loves hypervisors on USB, but there just seems to be too much crashing of XS on USB, with no clear cut way (as of now) to prevent it.

                          Other than to keep a clone and pray. 🙂

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said

                            dd would take a long, long time if you have it copying something like /proc, /sys, or /dev.

                            It was dd-ing the boot device, so that all had to be included...

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              After a little more poking around...

                              The LV shows up in LVS, but is not listed under /dev/mapper nor is it listed under /dev/dm*

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                                After a little more poking around...

                                The LV shows up in LVS, but is not listed under /dev/mapper nor is it listed under /dev/dm*

                                Sounds like the DM device has died perhaps beneath the LV.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  Sounds like the DM device has died perhaps beneath the LV.

                                  Since the USB stick showed all those weird characters, wouldn't it be more probable that the USB stick died, and not the hard drive that LV was on?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill That is what I would assume as well.

                                    That the USB has something wrong with and needs to be replaced.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said

                                      That the USB has something wrong with and needs to be replaced.

                                      My production server is also booting off USB.

                                      I am now trying to figure out if it is worth messing with it (aka, powering it down and cloning it, and hoping nothing goes wrong) before I go away for a few days. Or just leave it and hope for the best.

                                      I'm the only guy here, so if it dies while I am gone, that's a problem.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said

                                        That the USB has something wrong with and needs to be replaced.

                                        Odd because it is brand new, and from Samsung.

                                        It's almost like it went crazy for a bit, the data got corrupted, but then now it looks OK again, just doesn't work.

                                        Ghost in the machine...

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
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                                          I took that USB drive out of the XS, stuck it into my Windows machine, reformatted it, and ran a CHKDSK on it, checking all sectors.

                                          Nary an issue.

                                          Maybe just a fluke and the drive is really OK? Or trash it?

                                          I'm leaning towards trashing it.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            Today I rebuilt the crashed XS7. Installed XS7 to a new USB. Once XS was set up, I stopped the mounting of /var/log and redirected it to a folder on the VM SR. Then I set up 2 test VMs on the XS7. Everything was working fine.

                                            Then guess what? Same issue happened. I rebooted the XS, and it crashed in the exact same way. No network and the SR had been unmounted.

                                            What the hell is going on? At this point I am ruling out hardware. Is it possible putting anything on the VM storage LV crashes XS? Is it possibly a bug?

                                            What is this?????

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