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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Kelly
      last edited by

      @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

      What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

      For example:

      A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
      CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

      Is of course is the best solution when using Split Horizon DNS because if the internal IP changes, the records will all follow.

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      • alex.olynykA
        alex.olynyk
        last edited by

        so whoever hosts the DNS for my domain should be able to create a CNAME to alias owncloud.roseradiology.com to owncloud.rose.internal? Correct?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @alex.olynyk
          last edited by

          @alex.olynyk said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

          so whoever hosts the DNS for my domain should be able to create a CNAME to alias owncloud.roseradiology.com to owncloud.rose.internal? Correct?

          No, that is something you would do internally, on the DNS servers you control. In a Split Horizon setup, the two systems, internal DNS and external DNS, they both are handled completely separately.

          But, internally, where you have both rose.internal and roseradiology.com, you can create a record from one domain pointing to the other if you want.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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            @alex.olynyk said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

            So if I add a record for mail.roseradiology.com that should fix?

            Yes, but it's far from ideal.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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              @alex.olynyk said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

              so whoever hosts the DNS for my domain should be able to create a CNAME to alias owncloud.roseradiology.com to owncloud.rose.internal? Correct?

              but that would direct ALL external users to the same internal IP address causing them to fail.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                @alex.olynyk said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                so whoever hosts the DNS for my domain should be able to create a CNAME to alias owncloud.roseradiology.com to owncloud.rose.internal? Correct?

                but that would direct ALL external users to the same internal IP address causing them to fail.

                he's talking about doing this on his INTERNAL DNS server, I do believe.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  people don't normally refers to the internal staff as "whoever hosts my..." That's an odd terminology to use for the guy at the desk next to yours.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                    people don't normally refers to the internal staff as "whoever hosts my..." That's an odd terminology to use for the guy at the desk next to yours.

                    Or your own desk. 😛

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                      people don't normally refers to the internal staff as "whoever hosts my..." That's an odd terminology to use for the guy at the desk next to yours.

                      Yes, but if you recall (or go look at) the prior thread, it is clear that he has no understanding of DNS at all.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Kelly
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                        @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                        What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

                        For example:

                        A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
                        CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

                        I did not think Windows let you do that

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          For you internal DNS server, you have to now setup everything to match what your external DNS shows, except for the items that you want to point to internal addresses.

                          Here is a live working example from a client

                          Internal DNS for domain.com
                          0_1464042365926_upload-a7758d34-dd8f-495b-b82b-ffa39610f2d7

                          External DNS for domain.com
                          0_1464042559840_upload-96b9816b-4492-4a84-ada5-abfcdb1b39cb

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                            @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                            What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

                            For example:

                            A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
                            CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

                            I did not think Windows let you do that

                            You absolutely can do this.
                            0_1464043080529_one.png

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @Dashrender said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                              @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                              @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                              What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

                              For example:

                              A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
                              CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

                              I did not think Windows let you do that

                              You absolutely can do this.

                              Of course you can add a CNAME to an existing zone. I thought @Kelly was saying to add a CNAME for owncloud.roseradiology.com without adding roseradiology.com as a forward lookup zone.

                              That was what I thought you could not do.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                @Dashrender said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

                                For example:

                                A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
                                CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

                                I did not think Windows let you do that

                                You absolutely can do this.

                                Of course you can add a CNAME to an existing zone. I thought @Kelly was saying to add a CNAME for owncloud.roseradiology.com without adding roseradiology.com as a forward lookup zone.

                                That was what I thought you could not do.

                                huh, yeah I would guess you couldn't do that either, again, if you're not hosting the zone you want to Cname to, you can't do it.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                  @Dashrender said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                  @Kelly said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                  What about creating a CNAME that points to the internal A record?

                                  For example:

                                  A 192.168.1.5 ownlcloud.rose.internal
                                  CNAME owncloud.roseradiology.com owncloud.rose.internal

                                  I did not think Windows let you do that

                                  You absolutely can do this.

                                  Of course you can add a CNAME to an existing zone. I thought @Kelly was saying to add a CNAME for owncloud.roseradiology.com without adding roseradiology.com as a forward lookup zone.

                                  That was what I thought you could not do.

                                  huh, yeah I would guess you couldn't do that either, again, if you're not hosting the zone you want to Cname to, you can't do it.

                                  Interestingly enough, it lets you add it, but it does not work.

                                  owncloud.domain.local resolves to 10.201.1.17

                                  0_1464043429314_upload-0e34e285-bc53-4015-aab7-b650abf2353d

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    Of course it doesn't work - the system isn't authoritative for the daerma.com domain, so it wouldn't even look for that entry.

                                    What would be interesting though is the opposite, junk.xxxxxx.local -> oc.daerma.com

                                    Which should work.

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk
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                                      Cname did the trick. Thanks everyone.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
                                        last edited by

                                        @alex.olynyk said in Web Mail Not Working After Adding New DNS Zone:

                                        Cname did the trick. Thanks everyone.

                                        Did you add the records for the rest of your public services on roseradiology.com ?

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                                        • alex.olynykA
                                          alex.olynyk
                                          last edited by

                                          yes, everything is working today. and so is owncloud from the outside.

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                                          • alex.olynykA
                                            alex.olynyk
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                                            i have different URL's for owncloud inside the network and owncloud outside the network but that should be ok.

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