Hours I work/PTO
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@JaredBusch said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
I took more $/hour instead of set PTO like 2 weeks per year and shit.
I did that for a long time, too. But I've only seen it for people at high income levels where it is totally their decision and they are paid in such a way that it is VERY clear that they make money enough to pay for them to take time off when they need. Very different for high earners than for, say, factory workers. Even with me "zero PTO" I was given months of vacation when things were slow.
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@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Even with me "zero PTO" I was given months of vacation when things were slow.
Does this mean you paid you during this slow time and you were on vacation? Because you weren't really on vacation, but oncall?
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@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Even with me "zero PTO" I was given months of vacation when things were slow.
Does this mean you paid you during this slow time and you were on vacation? Because you weren't really on vacation, but oncall?
Just, you know... paid. Like when my daughter was born, they just told me to stop calling into work (for weeks.) Or when I was in Europe they wanted me to just... stop responding.
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@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
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@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Even with me "zero PTO" I was given months of vacation when things were slow.
Does this mean you paid you during this slow time and you were on vacation? Because you weren't really on vacation, but oncall?
Just, you know... paid. Like when my daughter was born, they just told me to stop calling into work (for weeks.) Or when I was in Europe they wanted me to just... stop responding.
After my second daughter was born, I had people calling while I was at the hospital to fix stuff, and even some idiot gave a customer my private cellphone number so they could call and pester me about some dumb ass accounting software that wasn't working just right. Nobody's business was in jeopardy. I told the customer I had to go, I was busy, they even could hear the baby crying in the background and said "oh, sorry you're busy but I need..." like damn woman. When I got back I fired the guy who gave them my phone number, something nobody is supposed to do, and also fired the other guy who kept calling me. I don't dish out that garbage and I sure as hell don't take it.
By the way, all of this was solved by a third employee who just re-created a missing drive linked to a network share, he got a bonus for not only figuring it out, but others told me that he was telling them how to fix it, he was just working on another customer. He even told them not to bother me it was inappropriate. He worked for me for years after that until he wanted to move on to other things, great employee, top notch.
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@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states....
Or 50 in most states for white collar workers.
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@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
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@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Yeah, I've never found one. NY and California support the 50 hour standard, which sucks.
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@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Yeah, I've never found one. NY and California support the 50 hour standard, which sucks.
I know several businesses that do 50 hours but they do have to pay 10 hours of overtime.
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@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Yeah, I've never found one. NY and California support the 50 hour standard, which sucks.
I know several businesses that do 50 hours but they do have to pay 10 hours of overtime.
That's on the case if they pay low. Most white collar jobs just expect 50 hours and that's that. And the law supports that, it's the standard work week. It's actually called the "professional week".
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states....
Or 50 in most states for white collar workers.
You've seen 50 actually listed in the law? I didn't see that when looking through Nebraska law - White collar gets OT, it's called non-exempt salary status, and it still at 40 hours before you get overtime. Not many places I know actually pay it.
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@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Oh, it's not about having a 30 hour work week, it's simply a definition of what qualifies as full time to get full benefits. If you work 30+ hours in a week, in Nebraska you are considered full time, and as such you must get all the same benefits as someone working 40 hrs/wk. The idea, I think, is to prevent employers from hiring someone, only allowing them to work say 32 hours a week and then not having to give them full time employee benefits.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@scottalanmiller said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Yeah, I've never found one. NY and California support the 50 hour standard, which sucks.
I know several businesses that do 50 hours but they do have to pay 10 hours of overtime.
That's on the case if they pay low. Most white collar jobs just expect 50 hours and that's that. And the law supports that, it's the standard work week. It's actually called the "professional week".
Interesting - I haven't seen any law stating that the White Collar work week is 50 hours, but it's been 5+ years since I've looked at the Nebraska stuff, whos, they might have changed.
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I just found out that my salary allows me to be a non-exempt employee due to a recent (GA State) law change... My the higher ups are already talking about it, and it sounds to me like a pay cut coming through the pipeline to make up for the OT that we sometimes have to do.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Yeah, I've never found one. NY and California support the 50 hour standard, which sucks.
So you're saying that the normal work week is now 50 hours per week, not 40? we moved from 8 hrs a day to 10? When did that happen?
And it's hilarious when I heard that some places in Europe are at 35 hr/wk or less.
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@dafyre said in Hours I work/PTO:
I just found out that my salary allows me to be a non-exempt employee due to a recent (GA State) law change... My the higher ups are already talking about it, and it sounds to me like a pay cut coming through the pipeline to make up for the OT that we sometimes have to do.
You seriously need to find another job.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@dafyre said in Hours I work/PTO:
I just found out that my salary allows me to be a non-exempt employee due to a recent (GA State) law change... My the higher ups are already talking about it, and it sounds to me like a pay cut coming through the pipeline to make up for the OT that we sometimes have to do.
You seriously need to find another job.
Assuming they do try to do a pay cut, I will be definitely... . Supposedly the law affects salaried employees under 50k a year... Which I fall into that category... but only just... So maybe I'll get a pay bump up to 50k a year and not have to worry about it, lol.
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Nebraska non exempt, I don't think there's a cap when you don't have to pay overtime. I'd have to double check.
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Every so often I realize I know very little about a country I live so close to.
What in the name of F...
No paid vacation days? Gooooooooooooooooooooood grief.
Even our interns get vacation days! We don't even pay them!
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
Every so often I realize I know very little about a country I live so close to.
What in the name of F...
No paid vacation days? Gooooooooooooooooooooood grief.
Even our interns get vacation days! We don't even pay them!
LOL - sure, as part of an internship, they should give notice for vacation, but as unpaid people.. it seems funny to me that they couldn't just take whatever time they need off.
