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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

      It appears to be an issue where anyone attempting to RDP into the VM is passing their Clipboard, printers, etc via the RDP connection.

      Specifically the problem appears to be due to the "Portable Device Enumerator Service".

      At least from what I can tell at the moment. I'll do some testing at some point today and see what I can figure out.

      just wondering - what leads you to this conclusion?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        It's only upon login that the system runs horribly. Disabling the service and then signing in, the login performance is greatly increased.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          How could that then affect the XenServer console as those things don't exist there.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

              The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

              To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by DustinB3403

                  @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                  The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                  To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                  Also this is likely why the login time was taking forever. (IE hey I can't find these devices)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                    The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                    To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                    I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                    That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                      The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                      To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                      I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                      That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                      No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                      I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                        The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                        To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                        I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                        That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                        No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                        I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                        Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                          The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                          To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                          I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                          That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                          No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                          I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                          Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

                          That's what he said when I asked earlier.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @coliver
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                            The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                            To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                            I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                            That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                            No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                            I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                            Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

                            Only while others were complaining about the login performance (which in XC, I know I should just use XO stupid me) would prompt me to pass my devices to the guest. Even if I said no don't pass devices.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                              The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                              To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                              I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                              That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                              No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                              I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                              Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

                              Only while others were complaining about the login performance (which in XC, I know I should just use XO stupid me) would prompt me to pass my devices to the guest. Even if I said no don't pass devices.

                              So you were seeing issues in the console and RDP. That seems to indicate the issue isn't RDP client side passthrough.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                                To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                                I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                                That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                                No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                                I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                                Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

                                Only while others were complaining about the login performance (which in XC, I know I should just use XO stupid me) would prompt me to pass my devices to the guest. Even if I said no don't pass devices.

                                So you were seeing issues in the console and RDP. That seems to indicate the issue isn't RDP client side passthrough.

                                That was my thought.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @coliver said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                  The XS Console prompts to provide these services for RDP.

                                  To what do they connect because they would be connecting to the XS machine, not to Windows!

                                  I'm not certain but I can only assume that the XenCenter console attempts to pass this information through to the guest VM.

                                  That doesn't make sense to me, RDP isn't to the VM but to XS.

                                  No you'd RDP directly to the VM (if you don't have console access).

                                  I'm the only person in the organization that has console access, my vendor nor other IT members have access to the XS console. (or even XenCenter)

                                  Were you seeing issues logging in directly to the console via XenCenter?

                                  Only while others were complaining about the login performance (which in XC, I know I should just use XO stupid me) would prompt me to pass my devices to the guest. Even if I said no don't pass devices.

                                  So you were seeing issues in the console and RDP. That seems to indicate the issue isn't RDP client side passthrough.

                                  That was my thought.

                                  Or he is not truly using the console.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    I was discussing this on ML the other day that I think XC uses RDP for its console. At least on the Server 2003 box I have that is always throwing up a RDP error when I click on console.

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                                    • J
                                      Jason Banned
                                      last edited by Jason

                                      Add more ram?

                                      Not really enough info. What's running on it how much ram/cpu does it have?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Server 2012 R2 VM RDP Access Logging in Super Slow:

                                        I was discussing this on ML the other day that I think XC uses RDP for its console. At least on the Server 2003 box I have that is always throwing up a RDP error when I click on console.

                                        Yes, that was the discussion and we figured out that it uses RDP. But that doesn't mean that the RDP will pass some of the connections to the VM.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
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                                          I dislike using the VM Consoles any longer than necessary, and in cases of networking issues in the VM. RDP and SSH access are so much faster and more flexible than when using the consoles.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said

                                            Yes, that was the discussion and we figured out that it uses RDP. But that doesn't mean that the RDP will pass some of the connections to the VM.

                                            On the 2003 server I have, this is the box that comes up, which lets you uncheck the clipboard option.

                                            On the 2012 server I have, I never see this window, it just goes right through. So, maybe there is a way to turn the option off, as it is probably just sending it on the newer server OSes?

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