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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      https://rocket.chat/ for the software and information.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        https://rocket.chat/ for the software and information.

        Rocket.Chat itself works quite nicely. I set it up for my Pops to run a chatroom and it's done fairly well for them... Low number of users though.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by Dashrender

          Are you only using the chat feature of Communicator?

          Do you have another thread talking about your GPO problem?

          *edit

          OK you do
          http://mangolassi.it/topic/8561/folder-redirection-gpo-not-being-applied/10

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            Are you only using the chat feature of Communicator?

            Do you have another thread talking about your GPO problem?

            *edit

            OK you do
            http://mangolassi.it/topic/8561/folder-redirection-gpo-not-being-applied/10

            Nice grab. Yeah I was starting to look at alternatives to Communicator but for reasons I can't discuss on a public forum, I just found out we have to go to Skype (on-premise). Lync was too expensive (~$24k), but Skype for Business is about ~$14k and they're considering that more affordable.

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford
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              So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation. Such as how OpenFire/Spark are open source and setup on premise (used it before, not bad considering it was free). Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                @BBigford said:

                So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                  @BBigford said:

                  Such as how OpenFire/Spark are open source and setup on premise (used it before, not bad considering it was free).

                  Like this?

                  http://mangolassi.it/topic/7956/installing-openfire-4-0-1-on-centos-7

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                    @BBigford said:

                    Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

                    Fully available on premises, no issues there. Or cloud, you have options. We have it running right now on a Scale HC3 cluster.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @BBigford said:

                      Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

                      Fully available on premises, no issues there. Or cloud, you have options. We have it running right now on a Scale HC3 cluster.

                      And by cloud I think he means private cloud.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        And by cloud I think he means private cloud.

                        Public, private, whatever you like.

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @BBigford said:

                          So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                          Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                          http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

                          Yeah I ran across that one in the past. I was going to circle back around and check it out. Recent information that I can't post about on here is that we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @bbigford
                            last edited by

                            @BBigford said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @BBigford said:

                            So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                            Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                            http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

                            Yeah I ran across that one in the past. I was going to circle back around and check it out. Recent information that I can't post about on here is that we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                            That sucks. Are you sure that you "have to go with Skype" even when they won't approve it? they can "say" all that they want that they have to go with it, but if they are not approving the budget, what does that mean? Just install Rocket in the mean time and see what happens. it is just a stop gap until they "get around to releasing the budget".

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @bbigford
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                              @BBigford said:

                              we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                              It's not too bad. It has been kind of unreliable lately though which sucks.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @BBigford said:

                                we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                                It's not too bad. It has been kind of unreliable lately though which sucks.

                                He means Skype for business which REALLY sucks.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  But currently... they are not going with it? I thought that they were stalling on the decision at this point.

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @Guest
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                                      @BBigford said:

                                      @scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

                                      Well it is on premises so up to "me" to secure it. So I lack the security team that MS has to secure things. As a communications channel it is pretty similar. If my goal is to secure the communications from random people, SfB is probably more secure. If it is to keep the communications away from the government, Rocket.Chat would be the more secure.

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @BBigford said:

                                        @scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

                                        Well it is on premises so up to "me" to secure it. So I lack the security team that MS has to secure things. As a communications channel it is pretty similar. If my goal is to secure the communications from random people, SfB is probably more secure. If it is to keep the communications away from the government, Rocket.Chat would be the more secure.

                                        I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use... Any tips on securing it for internal use? Using the mobile app is way up in the air... not really a concern at this point as that would be a separate issue since we'd have to worry about firewall rules and if it is pointing to our internal connection instead of being exposed to the public cloud.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by bbigford

                                          @scottalanmiller For internal, I know the question gets posed "it's internal, how do you figure it'll get compromised?" My thought was a compromised internal machine can feed that data to an external source (as unlikely as that might be, they are questions that might be raised).

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                                            @BBigford said:

                                            I'm guessing you use Rocket Chat, and that your post about setting up Rocket Chat wasn't just a trial, but to put it to use...

                                            No, we DO have it running, but we don't use it. We use Skype (real Skype, the one that works, not that SfB garbage, we tried that and it is pretty much useless) because our system is mostly for talking to customers, not internally. So since we are stuck with Skype to talk to customers it makes both SfB and Rocket pretty much useless to us.

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