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    • pchiodoP
      pchiodo @scottalanmiller
      last edited by pchiodo

      @scottalanmiller Here is a link to the stats - It's the total read latency that's raised this issue in the first place.

      http://imgur.com/zTvAo9x

      EDIT: So, if it's memory that's causing this in the first place, I should just be able to increase RAM, and not have to swap drives, correct?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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        @pchiodo said:

        @scottalanmiller Here is a link to the stats - It's the total read latency that's raised this issue in the first place.

        http://imgur.com/zTvAo9x

        You actually have an IOPS at 95th Percentile of.... 4. Not 4,000.... just 4. This is the lowest IOPS I've ever heard of. Literally.

        That latency is because your disks are likely spinning down and going to sleep.

        Typically you move to SSD because you have pushed your disks beyond the IOPS that they can do. That's not an issue here. Each drive can deliver 100 - 200 IOPS easily with disk cache pushing bursts much higher.

        Dont' go to SSD, it wouldn't do anything for that system. It's idle and running out of memory as it is. The disk latency might be "high", but it is never going to disk.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @pchiodo
          last edited by

          @pchiodo said:

          EDIT: So, if it's memory that's causing this in the first place, I should just be able to increase RAM, and not have to swap drives, correct?

          Doesn't look like there is an issue there, either. You are never hitting the disks.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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            @pchiodo said:

            @travisdh1 - We have a pretty heavy reliance on the DC, more notably the DNS due to some in house app dependencies. Our performance results from recent DPACK testing showed that this DC would benefit from SSDs vs HDDs.

            Are you feeling a lag in AD and DNS? What is pushing you to improve the performance of this system? The DPACK doesn't provide performance information, if provides capacity planning information only. The DPACK shows that the current system is underutilized, not taxed at all. The end users should be providing the feedback as to if the system is performing too slowly, are they complaining?

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            • pchiodoP
              pchiodo @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller We occasionally have issues on the shop floor with relatively slow response (4-5 seconds vs. sub-second) and when we track it down, it always points to name resolution as the hang-up. We have a shop floor app that uses hostnames, and seems to hit the DNS quite frequently. Like I said, on occasion, this will appear to slow down, and cause these intermittent lags.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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                @pchiodo said:

                @scottalanmiller We occasionally have issues on the shop floor with relatively slow response (4-5 seconds vs. sub-second) and when we track it down, it always points to name resolution as the hang-up. We have a shop floor app that uses hostnames, and seems to hit the DNS quite frequently. Like I said, on occasion, this will appear to slow down, and cause these intermittent lags.

                DNS resolution of internal machines or DNS resolution of external domains? Even having 100,000 internal machines a DNS table should be in memory and essentially instant. If DNS is a delay, likely something is wrong that needs to be fixed, not that the system isn't fast enough.

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                • pchiodoP
                  pchiodo @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Well, I guess I will have to dig further. I don't have any glaring DNS errors, and everything else works fine. Might have to point at the programming people and dig through that. The DBMS, and the Application server for the Shop floor app run exceptionally well, and we have never had an issue with performance on those. But, I suppose this could be a client side issue.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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                    @pchiodo could be client side, could be hitting a DNS entry that is missing, could be going to something external that has a delay while it waits for remote machines to respond.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      pchiodo - Is your app only looking for local DNS enteries, or also looking for internet based entries as well?

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                      • pchiodoP
                        pchiodo @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller We had an issue where jquery was calling to the web, and we addressed that a couple of weeks ago. I do not think there are any other calls to the outside web.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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                          @pchiodo said:

                          @scottalanmiller We had an issue where jquery was calling to the web, and we addressed that a couple of weeks ago. I do not think there are any other calls to the outside web.

                          Could be calls going through the DC's DNS but need to resolve externally for some reason, too.

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