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@coliver said:
There is a really good Linux alternative to iTunes that will connect with iPods/iPhones. The only downside (if you can call it that) is that it doesn't have the itunes store.
That's the biggest upside of all.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
There is a really good Linux alternative to iTunes that will connect with iPods/iPhones. The only downside (if you can call it that) is that it doesn't have the itunes store.
That's the biggest upside of all.
LOL.
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@BRRABill said:
Not if you use it for your local library. Or want to use iTunes Music.
Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I could not find instructions telling me how to do this. In fact, I found the opposite - telling me it couldn't be done without 3rd party add-ons.
I thought that mine opened Chrome itself by default, why would there be a desktop at all, I wonder?
that's what I was wondering - why is there a desktop, you can't do anything with it other than change the picture.. but really? if you're using it.. wouldn't you have Chrome open all the time covering it up?
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I rarely use the iTunes store.
So many cheaper options.
I have a ton of gift cards though. Was happy to be able to use them for iCloud backup storage.
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Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?
Because they want one place for all their music? THey don't want to open 4 different players to access all their stuff?
Because they want to use iTunes Music, because it's the best option out ther for iDevice users at this moment?
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Wait a second.. iTunes is now all in the cloud, no local client needed.
The mobile device will sync wirelessly.Not if you use it for your local library. Or want to use iTunes Music.
I wish it was. I'd have already moved to it. And is the reason I've been using Google Play almost exclusively.
One of the things ML really has spurred me to do. Get to the cloud, young man.
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
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I feel like we have the onion effect... one bad decision leading to another. End users can have a super simple experience, Chromebooks and Mint attest to that, but choosing weird DRM software, choosing to be dependent on a bizarre and awful locally installed application for no reason (and one from a third party that doesn't work well at all with the chosen platform), using an OS based on name and not on it meeting their needs.... start unravelling it and it becomes a small bad decision or lack of foresight leading to a dependency on something poor and it just snowballs and pretty soon tons of money and effort that no one can trace back as to why the system doesn't "just work" like it should.
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@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
I never recommend buying from Apple. Ever.
Almost always Amazon (especially since you can often get the physical CD for free if you want it).
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?
Because they want one place for all their music? THey don't want to open 4 different players to access all their stuff?
Because they want to use iTunes Music, because it's the best option out ther for iDevice users at this moment?
that's fine, but still.. do everything online only... stop worrying about local anything.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?
Because they want one place for all their music? THey don't want to open 4 different players to access all their stuff?
Because they want to use iTunes Music, because it's the best option out ther for iDevice users at this moment?
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
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@Dashrender said:
Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
why do you need a local copy? Just stream?What is this web interface you speak of?
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@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I feel like we have the onion effect... one bad decision leading to another. End users can have a super simple experience, Chromebooks and Mint attest to that, but choosing weird DRM software, choosing to be dependent on a bizarre and awful locally installed application for no reason (and one from a third party that doesn't work well at all with the chosen platform), using an OS based on name and not on it meeting their needs.... start unravelling it and it becomes a small bad decision or lack of foresight leading to a dependency on something poor and it just snowballs and pretty soon tons of money and effort that no one can trace back as to why the system doesn't "just work" like it should.
You're absolutely right - the fly in this ointment is a lot of people I run into bought into iTunes nearly a decade ago. As such they are pretty entrenched and don't want to move somewhere else.
The first thing that comes to mind is a person who own something like 500+ CDs and he had ripped them all into iTunes (which at the time had DRM).
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.
Who knows they burned any bridges with iTunes and customers who liked music or wanted things to work a decade ago.
Uh? What? Amazon doesn't do iTunes... Amazon has a fairly extensive media marketplace and tons of DRM free music (I just looked).
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@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
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@Dashrender said:
You're absolutely right - the fly in this ointment is a lot of people I run into bought into iTunes nearly a decade ago. As such they are pretty entrenched and don't want to move somewhere else.
Back when it was DRM and useless. I cannot believe they got a single customer, it makes me sad for humanity. The worst music service the world has ever known.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
What kind of deal is that? I mean... what do you get? What are you paying for?
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would that EVER lead you to iTunes? That makes zero sense to me. I want that too and iTunes does not do that for me. Amazon, however, does. So, unless there is something huge that I don't understand, this is misconceptions leading to bad decisions. Doesn't iTunes stop that, rather than fixing it?
Right now Apple Music is the best deal for families. $15 for up to 6 people. Google Play is similar, but can only be set up using an Android device. So for families like mine with all Apple devices, if we want Apple Music, we have to use iTunes to get it. Unless there is some other way I do not know about.
Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.
