XenServer Backup
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@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
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@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
hat's essentially what they did, but you can use it at work if you want. You just need to
But why not give us the appliance?
They're a business, they want to make money.
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@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
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@anonymous said:
@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
You pay for convenience... that's true in a lot of industries including IT.
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
Updates to node?
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@anonymous said:
@johnhooks said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
Just use the version they tell you to
That's find, but what about updates?
Don't update until they are ready for the new version. Check your OS to see if it provides a supported version that is compatible and then it shouldn't be an issue.
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@anonymous said:
@dafyre said:
@anonymous said:
WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.
If you don't trust yourself to be able to build it and have time to test it & ensure that it works, then use one of the VMs that our guys have created for it.
Oh, I do trust myself, but the XOA seems so much easier.
Well of course, that's the point of it. All of the work, even of an install, done for you PLUS an easy, predicable install for them to support. Easier but not free or as flexible.
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@scottalanmiller I assume CentOS 7 would be a good choice?
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@DustinB3403 has a guide on here of how to install it.
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So here is my complaint and then I am done bitching. (Well at least about this.)
They offer 2 free versions, and this isn't clear on there website.
</rant>
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Question, does the paid one include the ability to backup?
Does anyone see this like VMWare? Most features included, but a critical one isn't to push you to a paid version? lol Not complaining, just observing.
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@anonymous said:
So here is my complaint and then I am done bitching. (Well at least about this.)
They offer 2 free versions, and this isn't clear on there website.
</rant>
That's what brought them here, we were all confused about that.
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@Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/pricing
Yes, for $70/month. Can't afford this personally.
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@Dashrender said:
Question, does the paid one include the ability to backup?
Does anyone see this like VMWare? Most features included, but a critical one isn't to push you to a paid version? lol Not complaining, just observing.
Except it IS all free. All of it. That's the difference.
VMware is almost nothing free. Literally, just about nothing. Both XenServer and Xen Orchestra are both completely free. Every feature.
With XenServer, there isn't even someone to buy more features from. The Linux Foundation doesn't have any sort of sales system.
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No more bitching.... This is how I setup the XO application on a Ubuntu 15.10 VM.
100% functional, 100% free.
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Do we know what distro the appliance runs on? Maybe I should use the same one?
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You can probably look at your XOA and determine that?
@olivier could answer that for us.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Question, does the paid one include the ability to backup?
Does anyone see this like VMWare? Most features included, but a critical one isn't to push you to a paid version? lol Not complaining, just observing.
Except it IS all free. All of it. That's the difference.
VMware is almost nothing free. Literally, just about nothing. Both XenServer and Xen Orchestra are both completely free. Every feature.
With XenServer, there isn't even someone to buy more features from. The Linux Foundation doesn't have any sort of sales system.
Support - and the huge warnings around support are the issue here. When you're running a critical service to your business, the last thing you want to have happen is a failure, and when the boss comes to you and says - so what are you doing to resolve that - you answer, I'm waiting on someone to respond to a forum post I put up.
Is this kind of support often enough, sure. But it may not be enough for everyone.
