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    • ntoxicatorN
      ntoxicator
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      Thanks everyone for continued input 🙂

      Lenovo & Sever X are now off the list and will not be mentioned again or brought up for pricing.

      I can re-provision these NAS units for back-up targets as suggested. Keep what is already here and then spend the money to do HA-setup using localized storage on the nodes

      Its getting the CEO to pull bandaid off and spend some $$. We generate plenty in gross revenue and plenty to spare for net profit. 50 grand worth of new equipment I think would not be all that bad considering it can left in production for probably 4+ years

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      • AconboyA
        Aconboy @ntoxicator
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        @ntoxicator - for that kind of money, I could put in a cluster at the primary site, and cluster at a DR site, and have real time replication with failover and failback (and likely still have beer money left over).

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        • ntoxicatorN
          ntoxicator @Aconboy
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          @Aconboy

          Cool! 🙂 Would this be HC-Scale you're talking?

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          • AconboyA
            Aconboy @ntoxicator
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            @ntoxicator yup. Straight list on a 2000 series 3 node cluster (before discounting) is ~35k, and a 1000 series is ~25k.... not hard to get there at all.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @ntoxicator
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              @ntoxicator said:

              Thanks everyone for continued input 🙂

              Lenovo & Sever X are now off the list and will not be mentioned again or brought up for pricing.

              I can re-provision these NAS units for back-up targets as suggested. Keep what is already here and then spend the money to do HA-setup using localized storage on the nodes

              Its getting the CEO to pull bandaid off and spend some $$. We generate plenty in gross revenue and plenty to spare for net profit. 50 grand worth of new equipment I think would not be all that bad considering it can left in production for probably 4+ years

              Holy crap $50K? I wish I had that kind of budget in the past!

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              • ntoxicatorN
                ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                @Aconboy - nice!

                I thought was going to be more than that..... next week lets maybe get together for webinar and review. like to see the entire rundown

                also there any documentation on migrating from XenServer VM to HC scale? Or does it support the same disk image

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  While a Scale solution would be awesome... it just seems like overkill.

                  But if HA is really that important to the CEO, he has little choice I suppose.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    Holy crap $50K? I wish I had that kind of budget in the past!

                    Where's my 1 Million likes button?

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                    • AconboyA
                      Aconboy @ntoxicator
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                      @ntoxicator I can directly import .qcow2 images. Where are you located in the country and I will have a guy ping you directly

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                      • ntoxicatorN
                        ntoxicator @coliver
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                        @coliver

                        I'm anticipating 50k budget. Considering the millions of dollars we're grossing. They made comment of wanting something that will hold out until 2018 or so. To support ~300-400 employee's

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                        • ntoxicatorN
                          ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                          @Aconboy - East Coast.... Florida

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @ntoxicator
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                            @ntoxicator said:

                            @coliver

                            I'm anticipating 50k budget. Considering the millions of dollars we're grossing. They made comment of wanting something that will hold out until 2018 or so. To support ~300-400 employee's

                            Then just do what we all told you to do and buy Scale gear.

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                            • ntoxicatorN
                              ntoxicator
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                              We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @ntoxicator
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                                @ntoxicator said:

                                We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @ntoxicator said:

                                  We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                  I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

                                  Right if they are an enterprise class datacenter and sell collocation space then that's that... hell if you have a decent ISP or two you could relocate all of your stuff there... especially since you are already doing terminal services.

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                                  • ntoxicatorN
                                    ntoxicator
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                                    Yes - I'm aware of colo'ing servers.

                                    Yes - i can negotiate or buy half rack or full rack for power and bw

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                                    • AconboyA
                                      Aconboy @ntoxicator
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                                      @ntoxicator I will have Kevin Holmes and Ross Wimer reach out to you

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                                      • ntoxicatorN
                                        ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                                        @Aconboy - awesome. thank you!

                                        cheers

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                                          Jason Banned @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @ntoxicator said:

                                          We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                          I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

                                          Right if they are an enterprise class datacenter and sell collocation space then that's that... hell if you have a decent ISP or two you could relocate all of your stuff there... especially since you are already doing terminal services.

                                          Yep. We can put some hardware in with our router at our ISP.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                                            @ntoxicator said:

                                            @coliver

                                            I'm anticipating 50k budget. Considering the millions of dollars we're grossing. They made comment of wanting something that will hold out until 2018 or so. To support ~300-400 employee's

                                            That's where Scale "scales" like you want. You can start with what you need today and grow to whatever you need down the road. All very fluid.

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