Negotiating a retention bonus
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
You're right.. my story doesn't match up to JB's.. but JB didn't try to extort anyone either.. from the sounds of.. JB's employer heard what the new job was willing to pay and freaked out realizing they were loosing their guy and decided to try to keep him.
You are leaving out the critical part.... after they had turned down giving him the raise without the threat of the new job.
If they felt that he was worth the money why would it require trying to trick him into burning his bridge with the new company?
JB didn't post that he asked for raises before he was going to leave, so why would I assume he did ask?
Because that's the context of the thread. The story only makes sense to tell with that assumption. And only makes sense in general with that assumption as well.
I'll admit since I broke into that specific conversation without the context of the previous posts (read them hours ago)... so I suppose I could have infurred that
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JB, did you take the new job offer of $30K more to the old employer and try to extort that higher level of pay out of them?
Or, did you tell them the amount of the new offer to show them that in fact you were worth the money you were requesting all along and never had any intention of staying at the old company? And most importantly, did the old employer understand just that, that you were in fact not trying to get them to give you a raise, but that you were simply informing them of your current value?
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@Dashrender said:
JB, did you take the new job offer of $30K more to the old employer and try to extort that higher level of pay out of them?
No, the wage came up during the meeting the president of the company called when I put in my (4 week) notice. He asked and I told him. I had no intention of ever taking any counter offer. I honestly did not expect one at the salary difference. That is probably why I was still shocked enough to get mad when they did.
Or, did you tell them the amount of the new offer to show them that in fact you were worth the money you were requesting all along
No. It was asked, I answered. I did not do it to prove anything.
and never had any intention of staying at the old company?
I was leaving. Period. I never had any intention of staying at that company after having been treated as I had been.
And most importantly, did the old employer understand just that, that you were in fact not trying to get them to give you a raise, but that you were simply informing them of your current value?
Who knows what they took away from the meeting.
I did end up giving them 5 weeks to put my termination date on the end of a payroll as well as in an attempt to give them time to hire someone prior to my departure for on boarding.