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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      MB/s is not something you generally care about at all. It's IOPS that matter.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        But where would I find existing "Read operations percentage" ? This seems odd to calculate. I'm sure it has a logical reason for being there.

        Because it changes significantly what the IOPS are based on the RAID level. You get generally quite different read and write performance, so knowing you read and write blend is necessary to know how many IOPS you will get from your setup.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          That Dell tool (was it called DMAC?) can do this. You have to run a utility on your system that watches for these types of things. It's not perfect, but you're only looking for a rough guess.

          DPACK

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          • J
            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            That Dell tool (was it called DMAC?) can do this. You have to run a utility on your system that watches for these types of things. It's not perfect, but you're only looking for a rough guess.

            DPACK and it's not a calculator it runs on the system to calculate used IOPS.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said:

              Does this mean: "What percentage of your access is people only reading something and then closing it?" And if so, how would I calculate this?

              Sort of. It is "What percentage of IOPS are reading from storage versus writing to it."

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Jason
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                @Jason said:

                @Dashrender said:

                That Dell tool (was it called DMAC?) can do this. You have to run a utility on your system that watches for these types of things. It's not perfect, but you're only looking for a rough guess.

                DPACK and it's not a calculator it runs on the system to calculate used IOPS.

                yep and it should be telling you how many for write vs how many for read... there's your percent.

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad
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                  You could use tools inside of the operating systems to determine the W/R mix on a per OS basis. Or similar, I suspect, in most hypervisors.

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                  • Reid CooperR
                    Reid Cooper @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Single disk performance: IO/s MB/s
                    Read performance: 540
                    Write performance: 520

                    Those numbers are very small for IOPS from SSDs. I would expect at least one hundred times those numbers. Maybe more.

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                    • donaldlandruD
                      donaldlandru @Reid Cooper
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                      @Reid-Cooper said:

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      Single disk performance: IO/s MB/s
                      Read performance: 540
                      Write performance: 520

                      Those numbers are very small for IOPS from SSDs. I would expect at least one hundred times those numbers. Maybe more.

                      Those numbers are the max r/w speed is MB/s not iops numbers, as @scottalanmiller pointed out above really don't matter in this question...

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        So here's a link to the exact drive I'm looking at.

                        To save a few clicks

                        Performance
                        Max Sequential Read Up to 540 MBps

                        Max Sequential Write Up to 520 MBps

                        4KB Random Read
                        Random read (QD1) [IOPS]: up to 10,000 IOPS
                        Random read (QD32) [IOPS]: up to 98,000 IOPS

                        4KB Random Write
                        Random Write (QD1) [IOPS]: up to 40,000 IOPS
                        Random Write (QD32) [IOPS]: up to 90,000 IOPS

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          IOPs with SSD are so large in comparison to their HDD brethren, just one drive often beats an entire array of SAS 15K RAID 10 drives (8 drives @190 IOPs/drive = 1520 random read / 760 random write).

                          These are just simple ballparks.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            Yeah I did the math on the SSD drives above, and the rates IOPS is 4.4 GB/m.

                            Which there's no way SR (spinning rust) could keep up.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
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                              Can a SSD drive saturate the SATA connection they are attached to? Or are they not that fast yet.

                              I know most enterprises will probably start moving to PCIe SSD drives or at least a controller to integrate them.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                Well SATA supports up to 6GB/S

                                With my calculations I can push 4.4GB/m or 700MB/S (write)

                                So I don't think so.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Well SATA supports up to 6GB/S

                                  With my calculations I can push 4.4GB/m or 700MB/S (write)

                                  So I don't think so.

                                  Thanks.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Well SATA supports up to 6GB/S

                                    With my calculations I can push 4.4GB/m or 700MB/S (write)

                                    So I don't think so.

                                    Not a single drive. But an array definitely can.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender my calculations are a 12 disk RAID 5 array.

                                      A bigger system might.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        Yeah I did the math on the SSD drives above, and the rates IOPS is 4.4 GB/m.

                                        Drive performance is not measured in GB/m. It is measured in IOPS.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Looking at throughput numbers for drives is almost always useless. If you are building a streaming video server or a backup target that takes a single backup stream at a time, okay, there is a time where throughput can matter. But it is rare.

                                          There is a reason why IOPS is the only number generally used when talking storage performance - because it is the only one of significance. It is only because of this that things like SANs have any hope of working as they have terribly slow throughput bottlenecks between them and the servers that they support. But most businesses can run from iSCSI over 1GigE wires. Why? Because it is the IOPS that matter, rarely the throughput.

                                          If you look at throughput numbers, you will come up with some crazily dangerous comparisons that will lead you in some terrible decision making directions.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            There is a reason why IOPS is the only number generally used when talking storage performance - because it is the only one of significance.

                                            I've not even bothered to count how many times he has been told that in this thread yet he keeps not listening.

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