Backup File Server to DAS
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
now i looking for prices and i found that SAN is the expensive one
Performance vs. cost: SANs are typically higher performance than NAS devices, but cost more. Since SANs usually use Fibre Channel, they are able to operate substantially faster than a shared Internet Protocol (IP) networks. Fibre Channel operates at 8 gigabit and higher speeds as compared to existing IP networks which often run at 1 gigabit or less.What is your source for this bad information? This is just silly. Sure FC is often 8Gb/s or faster. But you can get NAS at 100Gb/s if you want. Yes, I said 100Gb/s.
What IP network do you know that runs LESS THAN 1Gb/s? Clearly this information is biased and unreliable. Even home networks over a decade ago were not that slow.
yes, even the home networks that Scott and his friends where running were not that slow. I only moved to a 1 Gb/s network about 2 years ago.
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Veeam Endpoint Recovery free works on physical devices. 8-) I have it running on my office machine here as well as at home.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
I would recommend a NAS (see other posts in this topic for recommendations)... and then using a backup utility from Veeam, Unitrends, StorageCraft (ShadowProtect), etc, etc... This way you can retain the file-level recovery via crash plan, and the blank slate recovery via a full-system backup utility.
Remember he is not virtualized, so Veeam can't do anything at all here and Unitrends can only do file level backups.
I thought they had a tool now for bare metal backups - mostly intended for desktops, but it could backup anything Windows based?
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Yeah. The Desktop backup tool is the Endpoint Recovery free. It does work great on Windows Server installs as well. (Don't know if it works on Windows core installs or not though).
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@dafyre said:
Veeam Endpoint Recovery free works on physical devices. 8-) I have it running on my office machine here as well as at home.
Oh, interesting.
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@dafyre said:
Yeah. The Desktop backup tool is the Endpoint Recovery free. It does work great on Windows Server installs as well. (Don't know if it works on Windows core installs or not though).
But I dont' think you can schedule it - well maybe you can with PowerShell.
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I feel like anything here is going to be really limited.
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
Yeah. The Desktop backup tool is the Endpoint Recovery free. It does work great on Windows Server installs as well. (Don't know if it works on Windows core installs or not though).
But I dont' think you can schedule it - well maybe you can with PowerShell.
You can schedule it via the GUI.
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@Dashrender said:
But I dont' think you can schedule it - well maybe you can with PowerShell.
The Endpoint Recovery tool is fully automated.
Veeam Backup & Recovery (VeeamZip) is the one that must be scheduled via PowerShell. Somebody release a script that would set that up for you. I'll see if I can find it.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
But I dont' think you can schedule it - well maybe you can with PowerShell.
The Endpoint Recovery tool is fully automated.
Veeam Backup & Recovery (VeeamZip) is the one that must be scheduled via PowerShell. Somebody release a script that would set that up for you. I'll see if I can find it.
Wow - now that makes no sense what so ever.
They release the free, but non gui scheduled VM solution, but then release a gui schedulable bare metal solution... shakes head
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ha ha ha. No argument there. The advantage of the Veeam B & R (everything is GUI except for the scheduling from what I gather) is that you get central control over your backup repository... which is most likely a must when dealing with a bunch of VMs...
With Endpoint Recovery, everything is stand alone. Each device (physical or vm) has to be setup and configured, and scheduled, etc, etc... A major headache if you have more than a few VMs.
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I think we need someone around here to have Veeam ERT in a lab and show what all it can do, what it can't, how to use it, etc. Not enough known about it.
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Hit up your contacts and add software to the NTG Lab.
They do have a Veeam B & R free, but I'm not sure about limitations other than scheduling.
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You responded while I was editing. I mean the Endpoint product.
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@scottalanmiller maybe I should do a walkthrough of it on one of my systems... I may do that and post it here.
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@dafyre said:
Hit up your contacts and add software to the NTG Lab.
They do have a Veeam B & R free, but I'm not sure about limitations other than scheduling.
Well another major limitation to the B&R free besides scheduling is individual file restore - Pretty sure you have to restore the whole thing.
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
Hit up your contacts and add software to the NTG Lab.
They do have a Veeam B & R free, but I'm not sure about limitations other than scheduling.
Well another major limitation to the B&R free besides scheduling is individual file restore - Pretty sure you have to restore the whole thing.
Oh well... that's probably not going to work out very well then. Neat feature to have full desktop recovery but file recovery is generally pretty big on the scale of things needed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
Hit up your contacts and add software to the NTG Lab.
They do have a Veeam B & R free, but I'm not sure about limitations other than scheduling.
Well another major limitation to the B&R free besides scheduling is individual file restore - Pretty sure you have to restore the whole thing.
Oh well... that's probably not going to work out very well then. Neat feature to have full desktop recovery but file recovery is generally pretty big on the scale of things needed.
Hold on - That might only apply to the B&R product, not the Endpoint product.. I don't know if it does or not.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
Hit up your contacts and add software to the NTG Lab.
They do have a Veeam B & R free, but I'm not sure about limitations other than scheduling.
Well another major limitation to the B&R free besides scheduling is individual file restore - Pretty sure you have to restore the whole thing.
Oh well... that's probably not going to work out very well then. Neat feature to have full desktop recovery but file recovery is generally pretty big on the scale of things needed.
Hold on - That might only apply to the B&R product, not the Endpoint product.. I don't know if it does or not.
Endpoint recovery can do individual files. It is a bit slower to backup though.
