Building Elastix 4 via RPM Repo
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I have no idea why anyone would even consider using this product
A "stable" PBX that does not even correctly install?
Why, the website cannot even load in english.
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Also, did some one not say there were errors using the ISO?
How stable is it then?
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@rialejo said:
@scottalanmiller Thanks a lot! its working fine, but its posible that somthing is wrong? I cant log in any endpoint... maybe I am... but this endpoint it was looged to another elastix, i just create the same number user and pas... and i only change the ip on it... but say timeout error...
Endpoint meaning phone or from the web interface?
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@JaredBusch said:
Also, did some one not say there were errors using the ISO?
Using the ISO as a repo, not in installing from the ISO AFAIK.
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@scottalanmiller Yes, i mean ip phone or softphone.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Also, did some one not say there were errors using the ISO?
Using the ISO as a repo, not in installing from the ISO AFAIK.
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Also, did some one not say there were errors using the ISO?
Using the ISO as a repo, not in installing from the ISO AFAIK.
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Hosted provider that does not let you install from your own ISO.
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@JaredBusch Aww.. so that sorta makes sense, but why use the ISO? because they don't have their own repo?
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch Aww.. so that sorta makes sense, but why use the ISO? because they don't have their own repo?
Correct, there is no repo at all for Elastix 4. But even if there was a repo, it would have to contain not just the updated packages but the installer files. Even when there is a repo, this is not always the case. But for Elastix 2, we don't use the ISO. It's only for Elastix 4 that it is currently required, I believe.
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@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
What kinds of hooks do they get into the system?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
lack of Linux knowledge here - why would you use the ISO as a repo instead of just installing from the ISO?
Exactly as Jared said here. No enterprise hosting servers (that I know of) lets you bring your own ISO for stability and performance reasons. They need hooks into your system that that would break. So installing onto generic is pretty important.
What kinds of hooks do they get into the system?
Well in some cases, a PV kernel. In many it is things like the ability to reset the root password, insert keys, check for memory utilization, determine if the CPU is hung, etc.
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How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
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@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
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Not how.wow... Damn autocorrect
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
Physical access ALWAYS means the ability to reset. No exception. But this allows it to be easy, automated and available to the customer. It's a pretty important feature. Imagine a hosted system where you are barred from doing a password reset like you would on a local one. That would be almost impossible for anyone not in a pure DevOps world to manage.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How, that is a lot of power for your provider.
how is it not? People expect certain functionalities, not having them puts a provider at a big disadvantage. And having rapidly built systems is huge. And reliable performance. If you let people install from ISO you get a performance mess.
I understand not allowing own ISO, but allowing the hosted root reset, that seems crazy.
Physical access ALWAYS means the ability to reset. No exception. But this allows it to be easy, automated and available to the customer. It's a pretty important feature. Imagine a hosted system where you are barred from doing a password reset like you would on a local one. That would be almost impossible for anyone not in a pure DevOps world to manage.
Physical sure, where you not implying they could do it with some kernal mod? Maybe I misunderstood.
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@Dashrender said:
Physical sure, where you not implying they could do it with some kernal mod? Maybe I misunderstood.
Kernel mod is pretty dramatic. It's just an app normally.
