Why Does BASH on Mac OSX Rarely Save to History
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@scottalanmiller As much of a problem that OS X has given you, I shudder to think: Have you tried Windows 10 or $favoriteLinuxDistro to see if the system runs better under another OS? If not, then it may actually be hardware problems.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller As much of a problem that OS X has given you, I shudder to think: Have you tried Windows 10 or $favoriteLinuxDistro to see if the system runs better under another OS? If not, then it may actually be hardware problems.
I can't practically replace the OS on the hardware. That would be nice. A potential alternative is to run Linux in a VM which, from my testing, is completely stable and normal (within the confines of the overall OS staying up and running.)
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If it is crashing that often you may have something else wrong. I haven't had mine crash in months, but I have a mac pro server that isn't waking up from sleep with out being unplugged for 10 seconds. It only happens about once every other week. Called Apple, they did a online log dump, couldn't find anything but kept putting pressure on them. They agreed to let me bring it into a Apple store for more diagnostics and have told me if they can't figure it out, they will replace it for free.
If I was you I would start keeping a log of system crashes for about a week, then call and start hounding on support because what you are experiencing is not normal. The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.
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@s.hackleman said:
If it is crashing that often you may have something else wrong. I haven't had mine crash in months, but I have a mac pro server that isn't waking up from sleep with out being unplugged for 10 seconds. It only happens about once every other week. Called Apple, they did a online log dump, couldn't find anything but kept putting pressure on them. They agreed to let me bring it into a Apple store for more diagnostics and have told me if they can't figure it out, they will replace it for free.
Sadly, no Apple Stores in this country, any bordering country, any bordering country to those, or to their bordering countries. I think my nearest store is like six countries away
Apple support is a bit lacking outside of the US and the richest European countries.
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@s.hackleman said:
The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.
That's not my experience with them supporting clients. I've been escalated to Apple engineering for issues and had them be like "yeah, nothing we can do, this doesn't really work." And they just gave up.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@s.hackleman said:
The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.
That's not my experience with them supporting clients. I've been escalated to Apple engineering for issues and had them be like "yeah, nothing we can do, this doesn't really work." And they just gave up.
They should know, they're Geniuses.
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Ha ha. No Geniuses is the name for the L0 techs. This was actually engineering in Cupertino.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Ha ha. No Geniuses is the name for the L0 techs. This was actually engineering in Cupertino.
Ha I was just kidding. How did you get through to engineering? That's kind of amazing in itself.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Ha ha. No Geniuses is the name for the L0 techs. This was actually engineering in Cupertino.
Ha I was just kidding. How did you get through to engineering? That's kind of amazing in itself.
There is a way, can't remember how you do it but it wasn't hard. There is an escalation path for business customers running the server OS to get there pretty easily when needed. Unfortunately, engineering had no power to fix the issues and just admitted that they had released the product hoping no one would use what we were using and that it wasn't working and they had no way to fix it and would be removing it in the future.
Total fail.
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Well i'm sitting in a little tea shop in Arkansas right now waiting on the Apple crew across the street to work on my server. I was complaining about having to drive 70 miles, that kind of puts a different perspective on things.
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Pardon my ignorance, what's the advantage to a Mac server?
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@johnhooks said:
Pardon my ignorance, what's the advantage to a Mac server?
The big one is SMB support with Mac specific metadata. There is a well known bug in Finder and the only way to work around it effectively is to use a Mac as a NAS head. It's horrible and yet another point where "Apple has known about the bug for years but doesn't provide support for it." Probably because the work around is to spend extra money are a horrible Mac file server.
But yet again, very bad support as the core.
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I should say, I have gotten great support for my iPhone. But never for a Mac, and I've needed about the same amount of support for both.
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Actually, only some of the support for my iPhone was good. A few years ago when I first tried to use the Apple Store they were truly terrible. But last year, they were really good. Not consistent, I guess, is an issue.
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@johnhooks said:
Pardon my ignorance, what's the advantage to a Mac server?
Deploying in house Mac applications and using Mac MDM. I say "Server" but it is just a high end Mac Pro.
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Are you running the Mac OSX Server OS?
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@scottalanmiller I'm running Mac OSX with the Server application installed.
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Server application? I am not familiar. There used to be a separate server OS. Does the Server App turn the regular OSX into the Server OSX?
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@scottalanmiller Pretty much.
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I have never had a problem with the history not recording commands in bash on OS X and that's going to back to least 10.4. What does bash --version reveal? Mine reveals
GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin14)
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.What if you try bash from homebrew? It's a newer build.
As to the Mac crashing (should be this its own thread?), how is it crashing, a kernel panic? Spinning ball? Does the system.log say anything? If you have DiskWarrior, you can run that to check the filesystem. Odd things things can happen when HFS+ corrupts, which does happen from time to time, but I don't trust the builtin fsck to fix it.
