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      Alex Sage
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      How relevant is Sharepoint at the moment? Is it worth learning?

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        Carnival Boy
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        I'm installing Sharepoint Foundation 2013 right now as it happens. So for me, the answer is "very" and "yes" 🙂

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          Alex Sage @Carnival Boy
          last edited by

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          I'm installing Sharepoint Foundation 2013 right now as it happens. So for me, the answer is "very" and "yes" 🙂

          Are you already using it, or is it for testing? If your already using it, what business use cases are you using it for?

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            Carnival Boy
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            I've yet to use it, but it integrates with our new ERP system (Microsoft Dynamics NAV) which we're going live with in February. So initially it will be used for document management of invoices and such like.

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              Carnival Boy
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              Can't get the damned thing to install! Just gives "Application Server Role, Web Server (IIS) Role: configuration error" when running the install prerequisites tool.

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                Minion Queen
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                We use SharePoint for all our client data and our custom helpdesk right now. In 30 days we will be moving to Dynamics CRM so it will be even more important then.

                We have been using SharePoint for years and can't imagine a company of any size not wanting to use it.

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                  dafyre @Carnival Boy
                  last edited by dafyre

                  @Carnival-Boy Did you actually install Application Server, and IIS Roles? 😉

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                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                    last edited by

                    @anonymous said:

                    How relevant is Sharepoint at the moment? Is it worth learning?

                    Probably remains Microsoft's key pivot technology.

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                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                      last edited by

                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      Can't get the damned thing to install! Just gives "Application Server Role, Web Server (IIS) Role: configuration error" when running the install prerequisites tool.

                      It's one of the hardest MS products to actually manage. Extremely complex.

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                        scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        We have been using SharePoint for years and can't imagine a company of any size not wanting to use it.

                        Twelve years now!

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                          A Former User
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                          We have three or four sharepoint sites.. We use them pretty heavily.

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                            dafyre
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                            I can understand Sharepoint being a complex beast -- especially since you can do full scale development using it as a platform... but I simply do not care for it because it is so complex. My last employer used a product that had some bits based on sharepoint. It took their expert on-site almost an entire week to get the Sharepoint instance up and running and functioning with their product... almost a whole week, and that doesn't include any migration from the old SIS we were using into the new one...

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                              Carnival Boy @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said:

                              @Carnival-Boy Did you actually install Application Server, and IIS Roles? 😉

                              Yes. Although I don't believe you should have too as one of the purposes of the "Install Software Prerequisites Tool" is surely to, you know, install the software prerequisites.

                              Anyway, I'm back on track after running the Powershell scripts listed here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2765260. It's currently installing the rest of the pre-requisites.

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                                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said:

                                I can understand Sharepoint being a complex beast -- especially since you can do full scale development using it as a platform... but I simply do not care for it because it is so complex. My last employer used a product that had some bits based on sharepoint. It took their expert on-site almost an entire week to get the Sharepoint instance up and running and functioning with their product... almost a whole week, and that doesn't include any migration from the old SIS we were using into the new one...

                                But you can get it hosted and it is super simple. And using tons of its features is super simple. It's only if you want to run on premises and/or do complex workflows that it becomes hard. If you just want to "use it" it can be very simple.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  My favourite features of SP are the easy ones: really powerful document library system, remote mappable drives, central database for metadata, easy to use searchable wiki, lists.

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                                    A Former User @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    I can understand Sharepoint being a complex beast -- especially since you can do full scale development using it as a platform... but I simply do not care for it because it is so complex. My last employer used a product that had some bits based on sharepoint. It took their expert on-site almost an entire week to get the Sharepoint instance up and running and functioning with their product... almost a whole week, and that doesn't include any migration from the old SIS we were using into the new one...

                                    A week for moving from any ERP or CRM to another platform is actually pretty fast. You really want to make sure all your ducks are in a row.

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                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller Therein lies the problem, though, right? Even if it is hosted, you still have to be able to develop for it unless you are just "using it"...right?

                                      (I just saw your next comment pop up)

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                                        Carnival Boy @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        My last employer used a product that had some bits based on sharepoint. It took their expert on-site almost an entire week to get the Sharepoint instance up and running and functioning with their product... almost a whole week

                                        I'll let you know how I get on then. I am the opposite of "expert" 🙂 I'm running Microsoft Dynamics NAV and also a third-party product called Zetadocs which manages the link between NAV and Sharepoint. It's taken me about an hour so far.

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                                          Carnival Boy
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                                          OK. All pre-requisites now installed. Time to install the software itself.

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                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @scottalanmiller Therein lies the problem, though, right? Even if it is hosted, you still have to be able to develop for it unless you are just "using it"...right?

                                            I'd guess that 90% of SP users don't develop for it. That's certainly no requirement. And in fact, rarely do I recommend that because that creates a level of lock-in that I would no feel comfortable with. Especially in this day and age where developing against it is not nearly as powerful as what is commonly used.

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