Desktop refresh best practice
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Some of the HPs use nice Delta PSUs. Others not so much.
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@MattSpeller said:
In my previous experience I can tell you that after 5 years a cheap consumer PSU (like you'd find in dell, hp, whatever) will not have much life left.
Cheap consumer PSUs? Are you sure about that? What kinds of units are you using? Where do you find commercial PSUs if not in Dell and HP? Who else is there out there to define what the commercial space even looks like? These are the top two in the game!
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@scottalanmiller apologies, incorrect word - rest of it stands though
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@MattSpeller said:
I don't know where you found your 10 year life PSU's but I want some!
Literally our entire HP fleet for the last sixteen years. We buy used, we run them into the ground, we use them for labs, clients, etc. These things last for forever.
We aren't buying entry level, but not high end either. Mid range, where the value is often best. And we don't buy at random, we research reasonably. But still, d325, d530, dx5150, dc5750, dc5850, etc. All of them absolute tanks.
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Those are the more current ones. Before those it was Compaq Brios and the odd Compaq iPaq. Our iPaqs were often used in unventilated outdoor workspaces or in incinerator rooms, no issues. Lost exactly zero of them (surprised even us.)
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And we have managed lease fleets of those units too, same track record. And those are heavily abused too, many so dirty that there is no air at all and often kept outside or in shops that are kept near 78 degrees or so.
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@scottalanmiller I'm not sure what to tell you! That kit is certainly not designed to last that long, I can tell you the component life of those PSU's is not great.
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller I'm not sure what to tell you! That kit is certainly not designed to last that long, I can tell you the component life of those PSU's is not great.
You see those models failing regularly? What is being done to them to make them die so quickly?
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Maybe you haven't been putting SSDs in them like we have
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@scottalanmiller said:
@MattSpeller said:
I don't know where you found your 10 year life PSU's but I want some!
Literally our entire HP fleet for the last sixteen years. We buy used, we run them into the ground, we use them for labs, clients, etc. These things last for forever.
We aren't buying entry level, but not high end either. Mid range, where the value is often best. And we don't buy at random, we research reasonably. But still, d325, d530, dx5150, dc5750, dc5850, etc. All of them absolute tanks.
WE have a few of the dc5750's and 5850's still in services in our lab even.
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So, the jury is split on what I should do
I guess I'll just run some benchmarks comparing a new PC with an upgraded old one and report back.
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@Dashrender said:
Sadly I think the Windows 10 upgrade is going to be exactly like Office Product Key Cards.
I don't think so. I think the reason Product Key Cards are such a ball-ache is because they want businesses to buy VL or O365. Whereas the reason Windows 10 is free is because they want to kill off Windows 7. So they have an incentive to make Product Key Cards suck but they have an incentive to make Windows 10 installs easy.
<touches wood>
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@Dashrender said:
Sadly I think the Windows 10 upgrade is going to be exactly like Office Product Key Cards.
I don't think so. I think the reason Product Key Cards are such a ball-ache is because they want businesses to buy VL or O365. Whereas the reason Windows 10 is free is because they want to kill off Windows 7. So they have an incentive to make Product Key Cards suck but they have an incentive to make Windows 10 installs easy.
<touches wood>
We can only hope! I haven't actually signed up for any upgrades yet (my personal laptop at home is running Windows 10 beta and I haven't looked at my wife's to see if she got the notice, so I'm not 100% sure what you are giving MS when you sign up for the free upgrade?
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@Dashrender said:
so I'm not 100% sure what you are giving MS when you sign up for the free upgrade?
I believe it's your soul.
