Airplane computer hacking
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In this thread: Antal gets pompous as hell.
I'm basically Thurston Howell meets the Professor, and I hate writing my opinions on this kind of stuff because it makes me feel like I seem as though I'm completely out of touch. I still do like to promote alternative means of travel, especially ships and trains, because I'm a huge dork I guess. In order to avoid making myself look even more pompous I never talk about the hotels I stay at or anything, but I've got way more opinions on those, which is funny because 25 years ago I live in a 2 room shanty, essentially. Take that, Mom.
See even this sounds ridiculous, I am out of touch. Oh well.
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I travel almost continuously so my options to only use cruise ships and to only use nice hotels is pretty limited. Especially in Europe where nice hotels are crazy expensive. In the US you can do a nice hotel often for less than $200. Try that even in Spain. But you can do AirB&B for some pretty cool options for less.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I travel almost continuously so my options to only use cruise ships and to only use nice hotels is pretty limited. Especially in Europe where nice hotels are crazy expensive. In the US you can do a nice hotel often for less than $200. Try that even in Spain. But you can do AirB&B for some pretty cool options for less.
I once rented out a castle for two weeks off Airbnb, only time I ever used it, and it was pretty awesome. It was very modern as well, it wasn't Spartan at all or anything like that. I like the general idea of Airbnb.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I travel almost continuously so my options to only use cruise ships and to only use nice hotels is pretty limited. Especially in Europe where nice hotels are crazy expensive. In the US you can do a nice hotel often for less than $200. Try that even in Spain. But you can do AirB&B for some pretty cool options for less.
I once rented out a castle for two weeks off Airbnb, only time I ever used it, and it was pretty awesome. It was very modern as well, it wasn't Spartan at all or anything like that. I like the general idea of Airbnb.
AirBnB has been amazing so far. Had one rental place try to royally screw us and AirBnB totally fixed everything. So even when things go wrong they have been awesome. We really trust them now. We've found tons of amazing locations with them. Like old town penthouses in the Old Jewish Quarter in Cordoba.
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@scottalanmiller one thing about this thread.. You continually say cruise ship when @tonyshowoff is talking about ocean liners.
These are two completely different modes of transport. Albeit, they are both ships.
Keeping this in mind, the only ocean liner still operating is the QM2.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller one thing about this thread.. You continually say cruise ship when @tonyshowoff is talking about ocean liners.
These are two completely different modes of transport. Albeit, they are both ships.
Keeping this in mind, the only ocean liner still operating is the QM2.
True. But as there is only one, there isn't much discussion just around that one ship. To do ocean crossings you need to use cruise ships or else you are basically just saying you never travel. The QM2 only crosses like twice a year.
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@scottalanmiller said:
True. But as there is only one, there isn't much discussion just around that one ship. To do ocean crossings you need to use cruise ships or else you are basically just saying you never travel. The QM2 only crosses like twice a year.
While true, you have to consider though still the differences in journey of the two, which I brought up earlier. Cruise ships are often the abode of drunken partiers, there's norovirus spread wildly, people constantly going missing and being raped, strange deaths, etc, etc and on ocean liners you don't have that same level of utter crap.
So even if there's only one real one left, it doesn't mean it's still lumped in with and criticised in the same manner as a cruise ship. In the same way you wouldn't lump zeppelin travel in with passenger airplanes just because they're both flying machines.
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@scottalanmiller said:
True. But as there is only one, there isn't much discussion just around that one ship. To do ocean crossings you need to use cruise ships or else you are basically just saying you never travel. The QM2 only crosses like twice a year.
Their may not be much discussion around it, but the entire portion of the thread related to ocean travel was specifically around it.
Additionally, Cruse ships do not do ocean crossings. So they are not a means of travel.
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OK Back to the OP - Holy crap!
What idiot allowed the wifi network to be on the same hardware as the planes internal anything? Has no one who works there paid attention to the news at all in the last 30 years?
WTF!
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@JaredBusch said:
Additionally, Cruse ships do not do ocean crossings. So they are not a means of travel.
Yes they do, all the time. Or else the QM2 isn't the only one. I hung out with a bunch of people who had just crossed one ocean on a ship other than the QM2 and were about to cross another one. I'm doing a dual ocean transfer in March on a cruise ship. Either cruise ships do ocean crossings or a lot of the ships you don't want to include in the category are not ocean liners.
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@JaredBusch said:
Additionally, Cruse ships do not do ocean crossings. So they are not a means of travel.
Taking the Norwegian Sun as not just travel, but relocation, moving a distance quite a bit farther than NY to London and going between countries and oceans.
Disney Cruise Lines owns no ocean liners but crosses the Atlantic regularly, for example.
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I agree with Scott - I have a friend who flew to Spain to take a Disney cruise back to NY. Sounded like crossing the ocean to me.
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We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
In what situation would you use this as a mode for moving from Europe to the USA or vice versa?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
I have to do continuous video teleconferencing that makes otherwise awesome Internet not as good as you would hope.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
In what situation would you use this as a mode for moving from Europe to the USA or vice versa?
Not sure what you mean. The situation when we are going between the US and Europe, for example
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
I have to do continuous video teleconferencing that makes otherwise awesome Internet not as good as you would hope.
Your need for mobility kinda makes that difficult at best.