Airplane computer hacking
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@JaredBusch said:
Additionally, Cruse ships do not do ocean crossings. So they are not a means of travel.
Taking the Norwegian Sun as not just travel, but relocation, moving a distance quite a bit farther than NY to London and going between countries and oceans.
Disney Cruise Lines owns no ocean liners but crosses the Atlantic regularly, for example.
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I agree with Scott - I have a friend who flew to Spain to take a Disney cruise back to NY. Sounded like crossing the ocean to me.
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We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
In what situation would you use this as a mode for moving from Europe to the USA or vice versa?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
I have to do continuous video teleconferencing that makes otherwise awesome Internet not as good as you would hope.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
In what situation would you use this as a mode for moving from Europe to the USA or vice versa?
Not sure what you mean. The situation when we are going between the US and Europe, for example
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We look at non-Disney ocean cruises regularly now as alternatives to taking flights.
you can afford to be out of contact that long? How long is the normal voyage?
Not crazy, like a week. I would either take vacation or we keep looking as a few lines are starting to look at getting Internet access there now.
Considering we have internet access on planes (though last I heard not on trans ocean - but that might have changed by now), no reason we can't on cruise ships. Granted it would be slow.. but enough for normal business needs I would think.
I have to do continuous video teleconferencing that makes otherwise awesome Internet not as good as you would hope.
Your need for mobility kinda makes that difficult at best.
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Also between North and South America. We are using one for going between Argentina and Chile already. Considering doing one from Chile to the US.
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@Dashrender said:
I agree with Scott - I have a friend who flew to Spain to take a Disney cruise back to NY. Sounded like crossing the ocean to me.
Crossing the ocean isn't the real stated difference though, but it was a primary one until fairly recently. A lot of cruise liners have started to move a lot of their stuff toward the areas formerly occupied by ocean liners in order to better compete with each other, however still the primary differences are:
- Cruise liners are essentially theme parks with hulls
- A cruise liner is typically considered the vacation/event itself, where as an ocean liner is just a transport to the vacation/event.
- Ocean liners have a scheduled route for passengers to be dropped off, and sometimes that happens with cruise liners, but typically cruises it's just as a temporary stop for vacationers to see locales, not to disembark completely
- Ocean liners have better paid staff
- Ocean liners are built for general open ocean travel, but cruise liners typically stay at least fairly close to the shore (when possible) and this is because ocean liners are built with higher decks, very few balcony rooms, etc so they can better deal with rough waters.
- And because of the above, ocean liners tend to carry more food and water than cruise ships
Like I said, a lot of cruise ships are going in that direction in order to simply stand out from the "let's get drunk and sail around the edge of Mexico" type of thing cruise liners were originally and are still typically used for.
I've never been on a cruise ship, only ocean liners, but my wife and a former girlfriend have both been on cruise ships and they both have/had stated that the environment is different (calmer, more sober, less partying if any at all) and the calibre of people is different (way less white trash).
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I always though a Ocean liner has a destination IE it's a form of transportation.
Cruise liners are the destination IE they have all the needed attractions on board, with a few small shoping/sight seeing stops.
I've never been on either so I likely have no clue what I'm talking about
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I always though a Ocean liner has a destination IE it's a form of transportation.
Cruise liners are the destination IE they have all the needed attractions on board, with a few small shoping/sight seeing stops.
I've never been on either so I likely have no clue what I'm talking about
That's a good succinct description, I'd say it's fairly accurate, but there are other differences as well.
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I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
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@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Scott seems to get a lot of vacation time.. maybe we'd get tired of being on vacation if we had that much.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Scott seems to get a lot of vacation time.. maybe we'd get tired of being on vacation if we had that much.
Scott is so highly paid that he doesn't 'enjoy' normal employment (I'm guessing). He can choose what jobs he wants to work and for how long.. then take as much time off before a new one comes along... oh the life
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@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
Or run a pornography empire, I take a lot of vacation time but I also run things whilst on vacation as well.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
Or run a pornography empire, I take a lot of vacation time but I also run things whilst on vacation as well.
then you really aren't on vacation.
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@Dashrender said:
then you really aren't on vacation.
You sound like every woman that's left me for being a workaholic. I'm the type of person that can't ever relax, ever.
