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    • black3dynamiteB
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      https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/fox-13-investigates-draper-hoa-hits-homeowners-with-25-000-fee-during-pandemic

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

        https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/fox-13-investigates-draper-hoa-hits-homeowners-with-25-000-fee-during-pandemic

        Man, I've learned by lesson with HOAs in the past. They are the devil's house division.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

          https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/fox-13-investigates-draper-hoa-hits-homeowners-with-25-000-fee-during-pandemic

          Man, I've learned by lesson with HOAs in the past. They are the devil's house division.

          Here's any benefits to homeowners? There are some many random requirements from HOAs.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

            https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/fox-13-investigates-draper-hoa-hits-homeowners-with-25-000-fee-during-pandemic

            Man, I've learned by lesson with HOAs in the past. They are the devil's house division.

            Here's any benefits to homeowners? There are some many random requirements from HOAs.

            The excuse I hear is that it can keep the neighborhood nicer because the HOA are basically the police for the neighborhood - and they can do damned near anything to those who live in it.

            In case like the one listed above, all houses are maintained by the HOA, and the whole neighborhood pays collectively for that maintenance - that's good for keeping house values similar - but also allows for abuses... what if the HOA board hires billy's company to do the work, and billy is related to someone on the board... then billy can pay them a kickback, etc.. lots of room for bad shit.

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              The excuse I hear is that it can keep the neighborhood nicer because the HOA are basically the police for the neighborhood - and they can do damned near anything to those who live in it.

              That's one of the excuses I've heard too.

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/fox-13-investigates-draper-hoa-hits-homeowners-with-25-000-fee-during-pandemic

                Man, I've learned by lesson with HOAs in the past. They are the devil's house division.

                Here's any benefits to homeowners? There are some many random requirements from HOAs.

                Not a lot in my opinion. Its more of to keep neighborhood looking the same and keep someone from storing broken down vehicles in the front yard. Otherwise its just a pain

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                • black3dynamiteB
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                  Tyler Perry Pays for All Groceries for the Elderly at 73 Stores Amid Coronavirus Pandemic
                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/tyler-perry-pays-for-all-groceries-for-the-elderly-at-73-stores-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB12kvD6?li=BBnb7Kz

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                  • black3dynamiteB
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                    As coronavirus fears grow, doctors and nurses face abuse, attacks
                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-coronavirus-fears-grow-doctors-and-nurses-face-abuse-attacks/ar-BB12kjM9?li=BBnb7Kz

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      As coronavirus fears grow, doctors and nurses face abuse, attacks
                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-coronavirus-fears-grow-doctors-and-nurses-face-abuse-attacks/ar-BB12kjM9?li=BBnb7Kz

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                      • black3dynamiteB
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                        https://www.fastcompany.com/90487654/utah-is-running-mass-covid-tests-why-arent-other-states?partner=rss

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          https://www.fastcompany.com/90487654/utah-is-running-mass-covid-tests-why-arent-other-states?partner=rss

                          Because other states aren't allowed to. Our local testing facility is capped by the fed, we aren't allowed to test more. It's not our state's choice.

                          https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/dallas-community-covid-19-testing-site-at-aac-hits-capacity-thursday/2339565/

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            https://www.fastcompany.com/90487654/utah-is-running-mass-covid-tests-why-arent-other-states?partner=rss

                            Because other states aren't allowed to. Our local testing facility is capped by the fed, we aren't allowed to test more. It's not our state's choice.

                            That's a false assumption on your part. If your state was acquiring tests outside of the federal allotment, they could test more. There is no federal restriction on testing. There is a restriction on how many tests from the federal government are issued.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
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                              https://www.fox13now.com/news/coronavirus/local-coronavirus-news/utahs-governor-to-unveil-increased-monitoring-for-covid-19-from-inbound-travel

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                There is no federal restriction on testing.

                                That's an assumption on your part. Do you know that that is true? We've been told otherwise. If I stated that, you'd demand that I prove it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  That's a false assumption on your part.

                                  at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

                                  Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
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                                    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-created-covid-19-testing-criteria-that-masked-the-numbers-contracting-the-coronavirus-in-us-2020-03-23

                                    There is news that testing was beginning to be allowed without complete federal oversight about two weeks ago... but only that private labs were allowed to start to get involved. I've yet seen a report that open testing is allowed without any federal caps. All reports have agreed all along, and all observation agrees, that the fed had provided limits. Nothing has disputed this. If those caps have been relaxed, unless they are lifted, they are still caps. And the only reports that I can find is that they were easing the limits, not allowing completely open testing.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      That's a false assumption on your part.

                                      at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

                                      Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

                                      That article does not say the the federal government was controlling testing.

                                      That article is clearly related to FDA approval, for new medical processes, that were always on place.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        This is yesterday’s news, I am not going to go dig up the news from weeks ago that state the same.

                                        https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hinz-politics/illinois-virus-testing-rising-slower-expected

                                        It clearly states how Illinois testing capacity is limited not by the federal government, but by the number of tests that they have the equipment for. And not all of that equipment comes from the federal government.

                                        This is no different that what Utah is doing as noted in the article above.

                                        Could the US government bureaucracies moved faster or allowed foreign tests to be imported? Sure. But that is not what this disagreement is about.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          That's a false assumption on your part.

                                          at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

                                          Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

                                          you can't prove a negative.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-created-covid-19-testing-criteria-that-masked-the-numbers-contracting-the-coronavirus-in-us-2020-03-23

                                            There is news that testing was beginning to be allowed without complete federal oversight about two weeks ago... but only that private labs were allowed to start to get involved. I've yet seen a report that open testing is allowed without any federal caps. All reports have agreed all along, and all observation agrees, that the fed had provided limits. Nothing has disputed this. If those caps have been relaxed, unless they are lifted, they are still caps. And the only reports that I can find is that they were easing the limits, not allowing completely open testing.

                                            One makes you wonder if they don't want testing, because they don't want to show that many many more people are infected and are asymptomatic - showing that the lockdown is really doing little to nothing. Because while the lockdown is bad - it's giving the government control, which they love.

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