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      bnrstnr @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

      US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
      "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

      Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

      How stupid is this guy?

      Stupidest argument ever... "If you don't like it just leave..." orrrrr maybe I'll try to make things better? :thumbs_up:

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        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

        Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

        US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
        "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

        Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

        How stupid is this guy?

        Pretty

        Biggest understatement of this presidency!

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          dafyre @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

          Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

          US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
          "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

          Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

          How stupid is this guy?

          Pretty

          Biggest understatement of this presidency!

          In every sense of the word, ha ha.

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            DustinB3403 @bnrstnr
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            @bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

            US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
            "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

            Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

            How stupid is this guy?

            Stupidest argument ever... "If you don't like it just leave..." orrrrr maybe I'll try to make things better? :thumbs_up:

            His approach to making things better are more xenophobia for everyone and attempting to pass presidential decrees that people must attempt to ask for asylum in any third party country they've gone through before asking for asylum here.

            Like what?

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              pmoncho @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

              US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
              "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

              Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

              How stupid is this guy?

              Stupidest argument ever... "If you don't like it just leave..." orrrrr maybe I'll try to make things better? :thumbs_up:

              attempting to pass presidential decrees that people must attempt to ask for asylum in any third party country they've gone through before asking for asylum here.

              Like what?

              Makes perfect sense to me. If your in dire need of rescue and your home sucks, you go to your closest neighbor. One doesn't travel to another person thousands of miles and three countries away.

              How does that satisfy the requirement of fear of persecution? It doesn't. Therefore it is not "seeking asylum"

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                pmoncho @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                How stupid is this guy?

                Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

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                  scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                  @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                  US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                  "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                  Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                  How stupid is this guy?

                  Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

                  He said it about four people, three of whom were born in the US. And he told them to go back and fix their own corrupt governments, which is himself. So not technically correct, nor smart. As incorrect and dumb as it gets. He totally burned himself and got it wrong, all in one go.

                  So not correct in any way, just because one single person in a group was born abroad doesn't make that "home", nor does it apply to others. Sorry, but this doesn't help make him "less wrong" in any way.

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                    pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                    US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                    "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                    Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                    How stupid is this guy?

                    Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

                    He said it about four people, three of whom were born in the US. And he told them to go back and fix their own corrupt governments, which is himself. So not technically correct, nor smart. As incorrect and dumb as it gets. He totally burned himself and got it wrong, all in one go.

                    So not correct in any way, just because one single person in a group was born abroad doesn't make that "home", nor does it apply to others. Sorry, but this doesn't help make him "less wrong" in any way.

                    In social context, if there is one man in a group of women, most people will say, "Come on guys, lets go!" Same context here.

                    Doesn't mean he is totally correct but correct enough.

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                      scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                      @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                      US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                      "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                      Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                      How stupid is this guy?

                      Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

                      He said it about four people, three of whom were born in the US. And he told them to go back and fix their own corrupt governments, which is himself. So not technically correct, nor smart. As incorrect and dumb as it gets. He totally burned himself and got it wrong, all in one go.

                      So not correct in any way, just because one single person in a group was born abroad doesn't make that "home", nor does it apply to others. Sorry, but this doesn't help make him "less wrong" in any way.

                      In social context, if there is one man in a group of women, most people will say, "Come on guys, lets go!" Same context here.

                      Doesn't mean he is totally correct but correct enough.

                      Not the same. Telling a group of people to "go back where they came from" is first, hate speech and as anti-American as it can get, it's illegal in most places and has no place in a civilized society. But beyond that, it's in no way like the example you gave. In that example, it is all people going somewhere. In this example, it is telling a group of people something that technically applies to none of them and if you stretch it, maybe kinda of applies to one, but not really. So in no interpretation can it make sense.

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                        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                        @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Doesn't mean he is totally correct but correct enough.

                        When is "wrong" = "correct enough"? That's not how correct works.

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                          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                          @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          In social context, if there is one man in a group of women, most people will say, "Come on guys, lets go!" Same context here.

                          I think you are using the "guys" to mean "all people" here, instead of "ladies" or whatever. That's nothing like what he did.

                          It would be like if you were one person in a group of five, all five of which live in a house but one is a more recent renter, and you told all of them that they don't belong there and need to go "back to their own homes" while standing in their home... all of their home.

                          In which case, if you did that, people would think you were both mean and crazy. As it's wrong in every way.

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                            pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                            US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                            "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                            Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                            How stupid is this guy?

                            Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

                            He said it about four people, three of whom were born in the US. And he told them to go back and fix their own corrupt governments, which is himself. So not technically correct, nor smart. As incorrect and dumb as it gets. He totally burned himself and got it wrong, all in one go.

                            So not correct in any way, just because one single person in a group was born abroad doesn't make that "home", nor does it apply to others. Sorry, but this doesn't help make him "less wrong" in any way.

                            In social context, if there is one man in a group of women, most people will say, "Come on guys, lets go!" Same context here.

                            Doesn't mean he is totally correct but correct enough.

                            Not the same. Telling a group of people to "go back where they came from" is first, hate speech and as anti-American as it can get, "

                            I have to call BS on this one. Read the ENTIRE tweet.

                            He told them to go leave and FIX the issues in their country and come back with the solutions.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              For it to be "right" in any way, would imply that Trump doesn't believe in US law and immigration. If that's true, he also believes that his own family isn't American and doesn't belong. And by extension, no one belongs as this is a country of immigrants. There is no way to make his logic hold up.

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                                scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Trump steps up attack on 'US-hating' congresswomen

                                US President Donald Trump has redoubled his attack on four Democratic congresswomen, accusing them of "hating our country".
                                "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time, you can leave," he told a heated news conference outside the White House.

                                Go back where? To the state they were born in? They're US CITIZENS.

                                How stupid is this guy?

                                Ilhan Omar may be a citizen but was not born in this country. So not so stupid after all. He is technically correct.

                                He said it about four people, three of whom were born in the US. And he told them to go back and fix their own corrupt governments, which is himself. So not technically correct, nor smart. As incorrect and dumb as it gets. He totally burned himself and got it wrong, all in one go.

                                So not correct in any way, just because one single person in a group was born abroad doesn't make that "home", nor does it apply to others. Sorry, but this doesn't help make him "less wrong" in any way.

                                In social context, if there is one man in a group of women, most people will say, "Come on guys, lets go!" Same context here.

                                Doesn't mean he is totally correct but correct enough.

                                Not the same. Telling a group of people to "go back where they came from" is first, hate speech and as anti-American as it can get, "

                                I have to call BS on this one. Read the ENTIRE tweet.

                                He told them to go leave and FIX the issues in their country and come back with the solutions.

                                Right, and THEIR country is AMERICA. Period.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  And he is the problem that they need to fix.

                                  SO, if you think that he's telling them that they need to fix on removing him from the country he is trying to destroy, then yes, he's a bit crazy, but correct. The only country for them to "go back to" is America. There is no other option. They are American.

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                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Ocasio-Cortez, Pressley and Tlaib were born in the United States. Omar came to the United States from Somalia as a child and is a naturalized citizen.

                                    For anyone to believe someone can "go back", would require them to not believe in America and American immigration. And if "born in America" and naturalized citizens aren't Americans, who is? None of us, that's for sure. Certainly not Trump.

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                                      pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      And he is the problem that they need to fix.

                                      You may think he is a problem and we will agree to disagree on this.

                                      SO, if you think that he's telling them that they need to fix on removing him from the country he is trying to destroy, then yes, he's a bit crazy, but correct. The only country for them to "go back to" is America. There is no other option. They are American.

                                      Now your going out on huge flimsy limbs here and becoming illogical.

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                                        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                        @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        You may think he is a problem and we will agree to disagree on this.

                                        I do, but more importantly, he does. That's what his tweet said. He told people to go to American and fix it.

                                        You can like him or support him, that's fine. But this tweet doesn't hold up. On its own, the Tweet is crazy. Whether it is a one off or standard is disputable. But there is no ground for this tweet to not be both crazy, and hate speech.

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                                          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                          @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          SO, if you think that he's telling them that they need to fix on removing him from the country he is trying to destroy, then yes, he's a bit crazy, but correct. The only country for them to "go back to" is America. There is no other option. They are American.

                                          Now your going out on huge flimsy limbs here and becoming illogical.

                                          What? He told them to go back to their home and fix it. Their home is America. As non-flimsy and it gets. There is no other possible interpretation. There is no other country but America in the context. None.

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                                            pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            SO, if you think that he's telling them that they need to fix on removing him from the country he is trying to destroy, then yes, he's a bit crazy, but correct. The only country for them to "go back to" is America. There is no other option. They are American.

                                            Now your going out on huge flimsy limbs here and becoming illogical.

                                            What? He told them to go back to their home and fix it. Their home is America. As non-flimsy and it gets. There is no other possible interpretation. There is no other country but America in the context. None.

                                            Trump is not crazy. He is just doing a few things that NEED to be done and bleeding hearts don't like the reality of the world.

                                            Trump even offered them up a great deal too. He basically said, "Show me the Money!" Go out, fix it and bring back solutions. Nothing wrong with that.

                                            As for racism, those four need to look inwards. It is rampant.

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