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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
US judge says teenager rape defendant from 'good family' deserves leniency
An appeals court has criticised a judge who ruled that a 16-year-old accused of rape should not be tried in an adult court as he was from a "good family".
The boy allegedly shared with friends a video of him raping the girl
Disgusting.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
US judge says teenager rape defendant from 'good family' deserves leniency
An appeals court has criticised a judge who ruled that a 16-year-old accused of rape should not be tried in an adult court as he was from a "good family".
The boy allegedly shared with friends a video of him raping the girl
Where "good family" = "white"
I was thinking more - where "good family" = wealthy, well connected.
And yeah, that judge should likely be bounced from the bench and possibly in jail.
And someone should point out that the judge was pretty excited that another rapist could go to a "good college". American universities are already hot beds for sexual predators and "good colleges" are getting more and more famous for places that protect predators.
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If anything, being from a "good family" and having a "good education" should be reasons to treat him more severely, not less. He has more to lose, more understanding of how wrong what he was doing was, fewer potential excuses. The judge warns that it might "destroy his life" as if that isn't what is needed here. That judge acted like he actually prefers predators in society, like that's the goal!
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
If anything, being from a "good family" and having a "good education" should be reasons to treat him more severely, not less. He has more to lose, more understanding of how wrong what he was doing was, fewer potential excuses. The judge warns that it might "destroy his life" as if that isn't what is needed here. That judge acted like he actually prefers predators in society, like that's the goal!
You seem surprised that a judge favored the wealthy and white in this case. That is the rule of law in this country.
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
If anything, being from a "good family" and having a "good education" should be reasons to treat him more severely, not less. He has more to lose, more understanding of how wrong what he was doing was, fewer potential excuses. The judge warns that it might "destroy his life" as if that isn't what is needed here. That judge acted like he actually prefers predators in society, like that's the goal!
You seem surprised that a judge favored the wealthy and white in this case. That is the rule of law in this country.
Disgusted, not surprised.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
If anything, being from a "good family" and having a "good education" should be reasons to treat him more severely, not less. He has more to lose, more understanding of how wrong what he was doing was, fewer potential excuses. The judge warns that it might "destroy his life" as if that isn't what is needed here. That judge acted like he actually prefers predators in society, like that's the goal!
You seem surprised that a judge favored the wealthy and white in this case. That is the rule of law in this country.
Disgusted, not surprised.
Fair enough. Seems like this judge doesn't want to be the first to drop the hammer on a privileged white defendant, since that is the opposite of what they generally do.
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Stromboli just blew up something fierce. A strong reminder to those of us who were just on an Italian volcano a few days ago...
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
If anything, being from a "good family" and having a "good education" should be reasons to treat him more severely, not less.
Agreed
He has more to lose,
Again - Agreed
more understanding of how wrong what he was doing was,
Here's were we diverge... because of the silver spoon, these "good family" types are so rarely held accountable, so I don't feel like the children in these situation actually do understand how wrong it is.. because the money and power have always bought them out of any trouble they have gotten into.
fewer potential excuses. The judge warns that it might "destroy his life" as if that isn't what is needed here. That judge acted like he actually prefers predators in society, like that's the goal!
Again I agree - he needs his life destroyed if for no other reason than to remind the "good family" types that they aren't above the law and they will be brought down just like not wealthy people.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Here's were we diverge... because of the silver spoon, these "good family" types are so rarely held accountable, so I don't feel like the children in these situation actually do understand how wrong it is.. because the money and power have always bought them out of any trouble they have gotten into.
That doesn't change how bad that they know it is, just how much they think that they can get away with it. Very different things.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Here's were we diverge... because of the silver spoon, these "good family" types are so rarely held accountable, so I don't feel like the children in these situation actually do understand how wrong it is.. because the money and power have always bought them out of any trouble they have gotten into.
That doesn't change how bad that they know it is, just how much they think that they can get away with it. Very different things.
I'll simply disagree - and I'm sure we'll never agree, just like you think everyone always knows they are lieing, and I don't agree with that either. I feel that because the lack of getting in trouble is for them.. they simply don't understand "how bad" something really is.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
Here's were we diverge... because of the silver spoon, these "good family" types are so rarely held accountable, so I don't feel like the children in these situation actually do understand how wrong it is.. because the money and power have always bought them out of any trouble they have gotten into.
That doesn't change how bad that they know it is, just how much they think that they can get away with it. Very different things.
I'll simply disagree - and I'm sure we'll never agree, just like you think everyone always knows they are lieing, and I don't agree with that either. I feel that because the lack of getting in trouble is for them.. they simply don't understand "how bad" something really is.
Right, and I think that they would make that excuse, but it's not reasonable. Getting in trouble doesn't set the bar for anyone else, why would it for the rich? Fear, pain... these are things that hit all people equally. LIke with other things we don't agree on, you have to rely on him being mentally handicapped for the effect you are expecting. You are assuming that wealth someone broke his brain to where you can't experience empathy like more sophisticated "non-wealthy people."
It's a bizarre excuse to try to make, that someone being wealthy actually makes your brain unable to function at a higher level.
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I say this because empathy and moral abstraction are considered aspects of higher brain functions attributed to humans of the last century or more. According to researchers, it is the wealthy who get these developments first, not the ones that lose them. Your theory goes against accepted science on the matter. Not that science can't be wrong, but your argument goes against the logic used by science for this exact type of effect. According to normal psychology, he should have more empathy and understanding based on his situation, not less.
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https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci38457511/executive
