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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
That has no basis in fact.
USAF won't state otherwise, that's as much admission as there is. That eye witness says there is live ordinance and there is no denial, that's as "confirmed live ordinance" as there can be. Is it the same as the USAF confirming it? No. Is the USAF a trustworthy source however? Not in the least.
Tell me, how exactly is this random person supposed to know that shit was live or not?
Nope. people are fucking stupid in general. I will not accept this type of statement without any kind of proof.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
Yeah this is unfounded,
NBC News reports that there were ordinances and hazmat had to respond because of it. So anyone on the ground would have a really good chance of knowing. Hard to hide the response team, and you can't really stop emergency services from discussing it.
https://www.wnky.com/f-16-crashes-into-california-warehouse/
"The jet was carrying ordinance, which prompted a hazardous materials response."
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Hazmat would have been there anyway
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@scotth said in Non-IT News Thread:
Hazmat would have been there anyway
Of course, fuel and all. But they specifically stated that hazmat had to be called for ordinances. Just repeating what was said. That what the news reported is wrong is just speculation. Eye witness reports and news reports both say that there were ordinances. We all know that witnesses and the news can be wrong, but at some point, we have to accept that all accounts agree and there is no reasonable grounds for doubting the people who are there. At a distance, it's idle speculation to think that the accounts at the site were false.
Once we go down that path, all news is fake and the entire point of news no longer exists. It's not like there is conflicting news in this case.
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I'm agreeing with you. I promise you that when they were dispatched, possible ordinance would be included in the notes and the crews that deal with that would try to be 1st on scene.
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@scotth said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'm agreeing with you. I promise you that when they were dispatched, possible ordinance would be included in the notes and the crews that deal with that would try to be 1st on scene.
Yeah, they would have to tell them what was there. And I'd expect them to warn people "we have X exposure risk" so people would know. In theory anyone anywhere near the scene would have to know. And if you didn't know, that would imply that whatever it was was so bad that they were hiding it.
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Now this is something that i believe. They guy posting pics to FB right after it crashed? no.
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BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48328867"Switzerland is not an EU member, but risked removal from the open-border Schengen Area if it had voted "no""
Hmmm... Sounds like someone is being bullied.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48328867"Switzerland is not an EU member, but risked removal from the open-border Schengen Area if it had voted "no""
Hmmm... Sounds like someone is being bullied.
Not exactly. They have some benefits of EU (open border). But if they want to retain them they have to meet the EU rules. This is pretty straightforward.
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@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48328867"Switzerland is not an EU member, but risked removal from the open-border Schengen Area if it had voted "no""
Hmmm... Sounds like someone is being bullied.
Not exactly. They have some benefits of EU (open border). But if they want to retain them they have to meet the EU rules. This is pretty straightforward.
See, it's stuff like this that gets called bullying that has made the world nothing but a bully factory.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48328867"Switzerland is not an EU member, but risked removal from the open-border Schengen Area if it had voted "no""
Hmmm... Sounds like someone is being bullied.
Like when you can't go into a restaurant when you refuse to wear a shirt bullied. It's a club that they were voluntarily considering now participating in.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
BBC News - Switzerland gun control: Voters back EU regulations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48328867"Switzerland is not an EU member, but risked removal from the open-border Schengen Area if it had voted "no""
Hmmm... Sounds like someone is being bullied.
Not exactly. They have some benefits of EU (open border). But if they want to retain them they have to meet the EU rules. This is pretty straightforward.
See, it's stuff like this that gets called bullying that has made the world nothing but a bully factory.
This is classic bullying 101. Switzerland is not being occasionally "teased" or "made fun of" (that is the crap I hate called bullying) in this situation. Its an all or nothing deal. My way or highway. That is top notch political bullying to me. Plus the Swiss gun control laws don't hurt the EU one bit. It's the EU just being a prick. If it was based on economics, missile defense, or explosives with a wide blast radius, that makes total sense.
Although, as the years go on, Switzerland keeps losing its balls and continues to cave at the EU's whim. Hell, they even voluntarily fixed their Franc to the Euro to help. How did that work out for the Swiss????
Oh well, the Earth will keep turning no matter which way the chips fall.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
Its an all or nothing deal. My way or highway.
That's like calling all laws bullies. It's just the law. And in this case, not a law forced on them, one that they voluntarily joined.
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@pmoncho said in Non-IT News Thread:
Plus the Swiss gun control laws don't hurt the EU one bit. It's the EU just being a prick.
They are believed to not just hurt the EU by jeopardizing security, many Swiss believe that they are causing problems in Switzerland.
