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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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      @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

      As you didn't supply your source for the definition for the word literacy, I went looking to fact check and I believe that this is it: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literacy.

      So with that in mind, may I get you comments on these additional sources in the context of what I posted (being that reading and writing is specified as part of the definition of literacy)?:
      Source: Google search: Define Literacy
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      Source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/literacy
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      Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literacy
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      Which then goes to this source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literate#h1
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      All of those agree and use computer literacy as an example.

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
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        Well, yes. Computer literacy.

        May I draw you attention to the example from Oxford.
        "Knowledge in a specified area."
        You may notice that their provided example specifies computer.
        Your original usage did not.

        Also the second example from Merriam-webster, I nabbed this from their page

        Examples of literate in a Sentence
        She is literate in both English and Spanish.
        What percentage of the population is literate?
        The job requires you to be computer literate.

        The example does not simply say literate but it specifies an area of literacy (/knowledge/competence).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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          @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

          Well, yes. Computer literacy.

          May I draw you attention to the example from Oxford.
          "Knowledge in a specified area."
          You may notice that their provided example specifies computer.
          Your original usage did not.

          Also the second example from Merriam-webster, I nabbed this from their page

          Examples of literate in a Sentence
          She is literate in both English and Spanish.
          What percentage of the population is literate?
          The job requires you to be computer literate.

          The example does not simply say literate but it specifies an area of literacy (/knowledge/competence).

          Yes, if you want to specify an area of literacy for a job listing that isn't implied but the job, you must be specific. That doesn't apply to my use case where the literacy involved isn't computer literacy but medical literacy for her specified field. The entire article and discussion was about how she was no longer qualified to do her career field. Her medical professional state was no longer literate.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Well, yes. Computer literacy.

            May I draw you attention to the example from Oxford.
            "Knowledge in a specified area."
            You may notice that their provided example specifies computer.
            Your original usage did not.

            Also the second example from Merriam-webster, I nabbed this from their page

            Examples of literate in a Sentence
            She is literate in both English and Spanish.
            What percentage of the population is literate?
            The job requires you to be computer literate.

            The example does not simply say literate but it specifies an area of literacy (/knowledge/competence).

            Yes, if you want to specify an area of literacy for a job listing that isn't implied but the job, you must be specific. That doesn't apply to my use case where the literacy involved isn't computer literacy but medical literacy for her specified field. The entire article and discussion was about how she was no longer qualified to do her career field. Her medical professional state was no longer literate.

            /sigh.. yeah I have to give Scott that one. Though not many people would instantly go there, like Scott did. So he's not wrong, but also, not in the common view either.
            Scott could have removed the ambiguity of the comment by stating medically literate - though undoubtedly someone would have said - what does medical literacy have to do with computers? To which Scott would likely claim that to be literate in medical practices today, one must be able to competently use a computer to navigate medical resources.

            It would be like an auto mechanic who's 80+ refusing to use any computerized gadgets to work on cars - would they still be automechanic literate?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              It would be like an auto mechanic who's 80+ refusing to use any computerized gadgets to work on cars - would they still be automechanic literate?

              If they worked on computerized cars, definitely.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                It would be like an auto mechanic who's 80+ refusing to use any computerized gadgets to work on cars - would they still be automechanic literate?

                If they worked on computerized cars, definitely.

                So taking that further, how does that relate to the human body.. it's not like it's had huge evolution in the past 60 years. Cars and other tech I totally get. But talking directly the stuff from the article - the ability to send a prescription - using a computer to send it is a convenience, the pharmacy itself can tap into the back end system to ensure that other issues don't arise.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  It would be like an auto mechanic who's 80+ refusing to use any computerized gadgets to work on cars - would they still be automechanic literate?

                  If they worked on computerized cars, definitely.

                  So taking that further, how does that relate to the human body.. it's not like it's had huge evolution in the past 60 years.

                  No, but the means of working on them has.

                  Example: We used to bleed people out and use leeches or even poison people hundreds of years ago. If you kept doing that today thinking it was medicine, you'd be medically illiterate.

                  Today we have means of storing, protecting, relaying, monitoring, baselining, and diagnosing people that require computers. not using computers is akin to using leeches. Once upon a time it was good enough, today it is not.

                  Once upon a time, painting pictures of deer on cave walls was written literacy. Today we expect you to know thousands of words and sentence structures. What is literacy changes over time for the written language, as it does for professions.

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    British Crown getting pulled through the muck more and more. First the Queen had questionable off shore investments in schemes to defraud the pool. Now Prince Charles has been exposed for lobbying for legal changes that benefit his secret off shore investments.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @mlnews
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                      @mlnews Yeah, the British crown had such a spotless and stellar reputation before these stories... Truly a shining beacon of only doing the right thing for many centuries now.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        Waymo now has driverless cars on public roads in Phoenix, AZ.

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper @mlnews
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                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Waymo now has driverless cars on public roads in Phoenix, AZ.

                          A historic day, for sure. Hopefully this goes well and testing progresses quickly.

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/voters-reject-cable-lobby-misinformation-campaign-against-muni-broadband/

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                              mlnews
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                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/ibms-plan-to-regulate-pot-with-blockchains-isnt-as-crazy-as-it-sounds/

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                              • KellyK
                                Kelly @mlnews
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                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/voters-reject-cable-lobby-misinformation-campaign-against-muni-broadband/

                                This was great news.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                  @kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/voters-reject-cable-lobby-misinformation-campaign-against-muni-broadband/

                                  This was great news.

                                  yes it is.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Self-driving shuttle bus in crash on first day
                                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41923814

                                    Why humans need to be removed from the drivers seat.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite
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                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/business/media/disney-fox-deal.html
                                        Disney's trying to strengthen there streaming service.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                          @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/business/media/disney-fox-deal.html
                                          Disney's trying to strengthen there streaming service.

                                          If they can even get it to work. Disney and technology have never been friends.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/business/media/disney-fox-deal.html
                                            Disney's trying to strengthen there streaming service.

                                            If they can even get it to work. Disney and technology have never been friends.

                                            Technology in general or specifically to streaming?

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