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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      @thecreativeone91 said:

      Dont think I'd run a mail server there. Its slow. And I doubt they run backups either.

      It'd be more of a learning experience, point taken about backups.

      We have Zimbra there for our lab.

      That sounds nice. I'm looking into setting up my own domain and thinking of email too. I'll keep it in mind

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        They had an outage over the weekend too.

        That's three this year. I've not noticed them though. Always been while I'm AFK

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
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          No issues for me today... I dunno... My problem is I like Gmail... It just works great on my phone and my Laptop and even Outlook if I want shudder at thought of using Outlook on GMail

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            No issues for me today... I dunno... My problem is I like Gmail... It just works great on my phone and my Laptop and even Outlook if I want shudder at thought of using Outlook on GMail

            I had to take it off of my phone. Since GMail can't filter incoming emails, it sends so many to my phone that the phone stops working.

            I had to start sending alerts to my personal email on Office 365 so that I could receive them.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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              @nadnerB said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              They had an outage over the weekend too.

              That's three this year. I've not noticed them though. Always been while I'm AFK

              Twenty four hours of this continuously...

              Screen Shot 2015-04-14 at 11.50.04 AM.png

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @nadnerB said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                They had an outage over the weekend too.

                That's three this year. I've not noticed them though. Always been while I'm AFK

                Twenty four hours of this continuously...

                Screen Shot 2015-04-14 at 11.50.04 AM.png

                Can you try accessing it from a different route? Eg VPN instead of direct?
                No idea why that would make a difference

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                • DanpD
                  Danp @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @Danp
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                    @Danp said:

                    @scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).

                    Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Danp
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                      @Danp said:

                      @scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).

                      Yeah, that is what I am trying to do but it doesn't work. GMail freezes up. Google doesn't appear to have enough processing power to archive my email. It seems to be archiving new mail, but it can't archive the existing mail. It just doesn't work.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                        Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.

                        It's more than that. It's an intentionally useless system design. It's not semantics. It's not a new word for something other email systems do. It's a means of hiding the fact that it lacks the most basic features.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.

                          It's more than that. It's an intentionally useless system design. It's not semantics. It's not a new word for something other email systems do. It's a means of hiding the fact that it lacks the most basic features.

                          The difference is one keeps it in the Inbox and just applies a label. The other actually moves to it that label as a folder. It's weird, yeah.

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom
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                            However, it has been that way for a decade now.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                              @thanksajdotcom said:

                              However, it has been that way for a decade now.

                              And they still haven't figured out the basics. Gives me no faith that they will ever make Androids usable. It worries me about Chromebooks. It's the one Google product that I really like (even their search has gotten really bad) and I don't trust that it will continue to be good. It seems more likely that they just got lucky and haven't ruined it yet.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Having to use Gmail is a real business instead of doing it at home only has definitely made me completely disagree with the idea of Google Apps. It's just a home user / hobby system. This is useless in a business. Google doesn't understand business users. They are a consumer toy company and nothing more. Their dedication to bad products is a testament to their marketing being all they are relying on rather than making things that work.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller I take it you are still having problems?

                                  What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?

                                  I'm sure you know this, but you can tell Android to only keep the last 2 or 3 days of email on your phone assuming you are "stuck" with an Android phone. 😉

                                  I think GMail & GApps are perfectly viable for business. Perhaps not at Enterprise scale...but for the SMB space, it is perfect! Granted, it's not without its issues as you are noticing, which could quite possibly be due to your current location and or internet service. Methinks I would probably classify your (company's) usage somewhere around Enterprise scale. 8-)

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said:

                                    I'm sure you know this, but you can tell Android to only keep the last 2 or 3 days of email on your phone assuming you are "stuck" with an Android phone. 😉

                                    No, I need a phone that works 😉 Abandoned Android years ago after it left me abandoned in a foreign country with no working phone. Never, ever again.

                                    iPhone will do the same thing, but Gmail sends the emails through so quickly and won't filter out from the Inbox that the continuous ingesting of emails is too much for the phone to keep working.

                                    It's the Inbox, not the total volume, that is the problem.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said:

                                      I think GMail & GApps are perfectly viable for business. Perhaps not at Enterprise scale...but for the SMB space, it is perfect!

                                      I'm in an SMB and have solid proof that it isn't working 😉

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?

                                        Getting about 20K emails a day. Just normal monitoring of apps as IT often has to deal with.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?

                                          Getting about 20K emails a day. Just normal monitoring of apps as IT often has to deal with.

                                          Ha ha ha.... Like I said... I figured you for an Enterprise guy. 8-)

                                          I've had my Gmail account for a long time, and I don't even think I've got 20k emails in it... I can't imagine having to sort through (well, okay, letting my Phone sort through) that much email in a day. That's gotta be rough on your battery, lol.

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                                          • C
                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            I'm sorry but 20k per day is not normal, either for an SMB or for an enterprise. Claiming Google Apps is just a hobby/ home user system on the grounds that it struggles to process over 7 million e-mails per year for a single account is unfair.

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