Gmail, How Do You Run New Filters Against Existing Inbox
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@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They had an outage over the weekend too.
That's three this year. I've not noticed them though. Always been while I'm AFK
Twenty four hours of this continuously...
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@scottalanmiller said:
@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They had an outage over the weekend too.
That's three this year. I've not noticed them though. Always been while I'm AFK
Twenty four hours of this continuously...
Can you try accessing it from a different route? Eg VPN instead of direct?
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@scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).
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@Danp said:
@scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).
Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.
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@Danp said:
@scottalanmiller Not seeing any issues here with gmail. Also, you can filter incoming emails. Look under Setting > Filters, and use the option to Skip the Inbox (Archive it).
Yeah, that is what I am trying to do but it doesn't work. GMail freezes up. Google doesn't appear to have enough processing power to archive my email. It seems to be archiving new mail, but it can't archive the existing mail. It just doesn't work.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.
It's more than that. It's an intentionally useless system design. It's not semantics. It's not a new word for something other email systems do. It's a means of hiding the fact that it lacks the most basic features.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
Yeah, the archiving part of it always confused me but that's just their syntax/semantics.
It's more than that. It's an intentionally useless system design. It's not semantics. It's not a new word for something other email systems do. It's a means of hiding the fact that it lacks the most basic features.
The difference is one keeps it in the Inbox and just applies a label. The other actually moves to it that label as a folder. It's weird, yeah.
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However, it has been that way for a decade now.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
However, it has been that way for a decade now.
And they still haven't figured out the basics. Gives me no faith that they will ever make Androids usable. It worries me about Chromebooks. It's the one Google product that I really like (even their search has gotten really bad) and I don't trust that it will continue to be good. It seems more likely that they just got lucky and haven't ruined it yet.
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Having to use Gmail is a real business instead of doing it at home only has definitely made me completely disagree with the idea of Google Apps. It's just a home user / hobby system. This is useless in a business. Google doesn't understand business users. They are a consumer toy company and nothing more. Their dedication to bad products is a testament to their marketing being all they are relying on rather than making things that work.
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@scottalanmiller I take it you are still having problems?
What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?
I'm sure you know this, but you can tell Android to only keep the last 2 or 3 days of email on your phone assuming you are "stuck" with an Android phone.
I think GMail & GApps are perfectly viable for business. Perhaps not at Enterprise scale...but for the SMB space, it is perfect! Granted, it's not without its issues as you are noticing, which could quite possibly be due to your current location and or internet service. Methinks I would probably classify your (company's) usage somewhere around Enterprise scale. 8-)
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@dafyre said:
I'm sure you know this, but you can tell Android to only keep the last 2 or 3 days of email on your phone assuming you are "stuck" with an Android phone.
No, I need a phone that works
Abandoned Android years ago after it left me abandoned in a foreign country with no working phone. Never, ever again.iPhone will do the same thing, but Gmail sends the emails through so quickly and won't filter out from the Inbox that the continuous ingesting of emails is too much for the phone to keep working.
It's the Inbox, not the total volume, that is the problem.
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@dafyre said:
I think GMail & GApps are perfectly viable for business. Perhaps not at Enterprise scale...but for the SMB space, it is perfect!
I'm in an SMB and have solid proof that it isn't working
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@dafyre said:
What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?
Getting about 20K emails a day. Just normal monitoring of apps as IT often has to deal with.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
What is the volume of email that you have in your GMail account?
Getting about 20K emails a day. Just normal monitoring of apps as IT often has to deal with.
Ha ha ha.... Like I said... I figured you for an Enterprise guy. 8-)
I've had my Gmail account for a long time, and I don't even think I've got 20k emails in it... I can't imagine having to sort through (well, okay, letting my Phone sort through) that much email in a day. That's gotta be rough on your battery, lol.
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I'm sorry but 20k per day is not normal, either for an SMB or for an enterprise. Claiming Google Apps is just a hobby/ home user system on the grounds that it struggles to process over 7 million e-mails per year for a single account is unfair.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I'm sorry but 20k per day is not normal, either for an SMB or for an enterprise. Claiming Google Apps is just a hobby/ home user system on the grounds that it struggles to process over 7 million e-mails per year for a single account is unfair.
Ditto this. 20K emails/day is an insane amount. If you think otherwise, that's not rational.
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@dafyre said:
Ha ha ha.... Like I said... I figured you for an Enterprise guy. 8-)
Used to be. I've done everything from two person businesses up to the Fortune 10.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I'm sorry but 20k per day is not normal, either for an SMB or for an enterprise. Claiming Google Apps is just a hobby/ home user system on the grounds that it struggles to process over 7 million e-mails per year for a single account is unfair.
It's decently normal in IT once you are supporting infrastructure. System alerts are commonly sent by email.
It might sound unfair to ask Google to process 7m emails a year. But is it unfair to ask it to do what Office 365, Internal Exchange, Rackspace email or any business class email does with ease? It sounds like a big number, but in the business world, it is trivial. If you can't process that much, you have no business claiming to be in business.
Now SHOULD people get that much? I have no idea. But I have at company after company for a decade. It's not super common, but it is not uncommon once you get away from a certain category of company. Once you support large scale systems, it is very common.
And consider that there are companies SENDING me this email (from the outside!!!) every day without even noticing.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Ditto this. 20K emails/day is an insane amount. If you think otherwise, that's not rational.
That's a bold statement. How much Fortune 1000 email filtering experience do you have to base your ideas of rational on? How many infrastructure positions, development support positions have you had where you had to receive email from deployment and monitoring systems?
