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@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
American schools are funny. My daughter once got detention (for talking during some silent reading thing) when we were living in New York, and I told her to just not go, what can they do? I mean it's American public schools in the 21st century, they're basically powerless babies. So she didn't, and then they gave her more, and I said don't go. Finally they called me to tell me that she was suspended for two days for skipping detention, and I said "so the worst punishment you could think of was to give her a vacation?"
When I was in middle school they screwed up detention so much that it was a HUGE reward system. The more detention you go, the better school became. The ideal was to get as many detentions as possible without getting too many to get suspended. Or, if you got lucky like me, get so many that you get suspended by they fail to keep track of the records and just keep giving detentions.
Detention made my school day nearly three hours shorter with no negatives. Just massive improvements on the normal punishment of school.
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@Obsolesce said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
meanwhile we pretend to care about "STEM" careers yet do essentially nothing to help interest children in them.
What do you do in your home schooling to interest your children in STEM careers?
For us, we do nothing. They get exposed to STEM naturally like anyone should in school (by getting math, science, programming, etc.) but we don't want to push them to STEM, that's a weird American thing that isn't healthy and universities are starting to panic about. My kids aren't interested in STEM, pushing them to it would not do them any favours. They want to work in other areas, and we have way too many kids in STEM stuff now.
STEM has basically become a catch all for just "the basics" now. It's supposed to mean tech or science fields, but doesn't at all anymore. It's all marketing BS. And it's also become very wrong that America sees STEM education as the only valuable education, rather than looking at the jobs we need to fill and skills people need for them.
Most careers don't use STEM education. And most STEM programs don't teach STEM.
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Obsolesce said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
meanwhile we pretend to care about "STEM" careers yet do essentially nothing to help interest children in them.
What do you do in your home schooling to interest your children in STEM careers?
For us, we do nothing. They get exposed to STEM naturally like anyone should in school (by getting math, science, programming, etc.) but we don't want to push them to STEM, that's a weird American thing that isn't healthy and universities are starting to panic about. My kids aren't interested in STEM, pushing them to it would not do them any favours. They want to work in other areas, and we have way too many kids in STEM stuff now.
STEM has basically become a catch all for just "the basics" now. It's supposed to mean tech or science fields, but doesn't at all anymore. It's all marketing BS. And it's also become very wrong that America sees STEM education as the only valuable education, rather than looking at the jobs we need to fill and skills people need for them.
Most careers don't use STEM education. And most STEM programs don't teach STEM.
That's what I was trying to say but I'm ain't so good with the langages.
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We homeschool a few of our kids. I know that as far as school goes, I am way more interested in developing my children's character than in teaching them facts from a book. In the day of information being literally right at your fingertips with google, the facts become just facts. I spend my effort teaching them to be good people, and also teaching them things like reasoning and logic, and the skills needed to figure something out. Personally, if I want to know some facts, I can just look them up quickly. Knowing how to apply them correctly to life is the real skill that should be focused on.
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@mlnews said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
I don't care much for Elf on the Shelf thing, it's weird in the sense it's almost like some sort of secret police. My wife says it reminds her of the Stasi.
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Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
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@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
Agreed, It seems to me to sort of send the message you should only be good if you're being watched.
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@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
One of the worst things ever. I hate it.
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@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
Agreed, It seems to me to sort of send the message you should only be good if you're being watched.
Yup, like all of the made up santa stuff, it's elfing creepy.
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What I'm getting from this elf on a shelf bashing is I need to setup hidden cameras around my house and watch everything. . .
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
Agreed, It seems to me to sort of send the message you should only be good if you're being watched.
Yup, like all of the made up santa stuff, it's elfing creepy.
Could be worse. Could be Chucky on the Shelf.
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@NerdyDad said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
Agreed, It seems to me to sort of send the message you should only be good if you're being watched.
Yup, like all of the made up santa stuff, it's elfing creepy.
Could be worse. Could be Chucky on the Shelf.
Better than than bloomin elf. At least with Chucky, you know where you stand.
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@tonyshowoff said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@JaredBusch said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Elf on the Shelf is totally fucking stupid.
Agreed, It seems to me to sort of send the message you should only be good if you're being watched.
Yup, like all of the made up santa stuff, it's elfing creepy.