What are you listening to? What would you recommend?
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Been obsessed with this song the past couple days...
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I'm kinda surprised that music videos are still made - kinda thought the MTV generation was over, considering the channel doesn't play music videos anymore.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm kinda surprised that music videos are still made - kinda thought the MTV generation was over, considering the channel doesn't play music videos anymore.
Music videos existed before and outside of MTV. That was just one cable station that established itself with the purpose of showing nothing else (and quickly gave up.) MTV was pop music only, too. Country has had multiple video channels for decades now. And that's just on legacy television networks which are horrible for that type of programming. On demand systems like YouTube are far better.
Vevo has been the modern era's MTV nearly as long as MTV was playing videos. MTV is already mostly an "also mention" in the history of music video services. If it was so prominent so early, it would have long ago been forgotten.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm kinda surprised that music videos are still made - kinda thought the MTV generation was over, considering the channel doesn't play music videos anymore.
I don't think they're made with the same importance as back then. MTV was definitely revolutionary. You don't seem to get the big, famous, expensive videos that I still remember from my youth. Like Thriller, Sledgehammer, Money For Nothing, A-Ha's Take On Me, These videos had a big impact on my life.
Now videos are famous for some slimy sleazeball persuading Miley Cryus to get her kit off, and that's about it.
I still watch videos on YouTube though.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I don't think they're made with the same importance as back then. MTV was definitely revolutionary. You don't seem to get the big, famous, expensive videos that I still remember from my youth. Like Thriller, Sledgehammer, Money For Nothing, A-Ha's Take On Me, These videos had a big impact on my life.
You don't get the big music of the 70s and 80s anymore either. @art_of_shred and I were discussing this a few months ago. The era of the giant artists like The Rolling Stones, Beatles, Michael Jackson, Journey, etc., etc. is over. The most iconic music of the rock and pop eras was made towards the beginning of both (same could be said for country in the 1990s) and the big, massive music videos were tied to them.
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I wouldn't say over. Adele, Eminem, Nora Jones, Taylor Swift, Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Coldplay. All massive and all relatively recent (this century, anyway).
Maybe you're just getting old, Scott?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I wouldn't say over. Adele, Eminem, Nora Jones, Taylor Swift, Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Coldplay. All massive and all relatively recent (this century, anyway).
Maybe you're just getting old, Scott?
Linkin Park goes back to the mid 90s, although their first album wasn't til late 2000. Eminem goes back a ways too...
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This is my favorite song at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rTz7bBRBYA
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Am I the only one who thinks that it's just totally awesome that Steve Martin plays the BANJO?!
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So you want to put album sales and concert ticket sales head to head between Coldplay and Journey? Good luck with that one. I think maybe you're too young to remember what music used to be like and the cultural impact it had. Sorry, but those days are long gone. Welcome to the digital age. No one is wearing Coldplay concert tee's.
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@art_of_shred said:
So you want to put album sales and concert ticket sales head to head between Coldplay and Journey? Good luck with that one. I think maybe you're too young to remember what music used to be like and the cultural impact it had. Sorry, but those days are long gone. Welcome to the digital age. No one is wearing Coldplay concert tee's.
Coldplay is good, definitely. But I agree. They are nowhere to being even close as in the same league as Journey. Besides, 30 years from now, you won't hear people still talking about Coldplay with the same enthusiasm, and "Don't Stop Believing" will still play on the radio with the same impact to people that it had decades before.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I wouldn't say over. Adele, Eminem, Nora Jones, Taylor Swift, Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Coldplay. All massive and all relatively recent (this century, anyway).
Maybe you're just getting old, Scott?
Some of those I don't even think of as large artists at all. Some are big, Taylor Swift has a chance for a pretty massive career ahead of her if she keeps it together, but at this time, none of those are at all in the same league as the classics.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
I wouldn't say over. Adele, Eminem, Nora Jones, Taylor Swift, Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Coldplay. All massive and all relatively recent (this century, anyway).
Maybe you're just getting old, Scott?
Some of those I don't even think of as large artists at all. Some are big, Taylor Swift has a chance for a pretty massive career ahead of her if she keeps it together, but at this time, none of those are at all in the same league as the classics.
The only one who is pretty close as far as a standout is Eminem. The only decent rapper on the market for decades now...
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
I wouldn't say over. Adele, Eminem, Nora Jones, Taylor Swift, Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Coldplay. All massive and all relatively recent (this century, anyway).
Maybe you're just getting old, Scott?
Some of those I don't even think of as large artists at all. Some are big, Taylor Swift has a chance for a pretty massive career ahead of her if she keeps it together, but at this time, none of those are at all in the same league as the classics.
The only one who is pretty close as far as a standout is Eminem. The only decent rapper on the market for decades now...
Is that what that is?
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@thanksaj said:
The only one who is pretty close as far as a standout is Eminem. The only decent rapper on the market for decades now...
Did you look that up? I just did and I was surprised by how well he has done. He is now ahead of Garth Brooks. Somewhere around the 15th biggest act of all time. Rihanna is pretty high up there too. I had no idea.
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Taylor Swift, though, likely has the most meteoric career. So much younger than the others. She only started her career in 2006 and is currently charting still (not just working, but actually charting) and is already 10% past Brittany Spears. Taylor is at 110m in sales. And considering that she is a single act, not a band, and that she writes her own music (all of it, I think, but maybe that's not true) she is definitely into competition with the individual Beatles ranges in personal revenue and she has plenty of time to catch pretty much any act if she just holds it together and doesn't freak out.
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Now what is going to be hard, is that the old acts made their records by selling records (pun intended.) The rankings are normally by album sales. But the era of albums is long over. Sure they exist, but few people buy "by the album" anymore and many artists don't release music that way. So tracking sales in that manner is misleading. TS, for example, many years ago was the leading artist, of all time, in digital download sales. That isn't just a few background sales, those are huge percentages of her sales and often they don't count towards the rankings.
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It makes me sad, though, that Elton John and Madonna are in the top ten. What a sad statement that is for the rock and pop worlds that these are the best that they could come up with. I can't stand the Beatles either, but I understand why they are so prominent. I like a good number of the top twenty artists, but a few are real stinkers.
